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The Terror Era

Posted July 8th, 2005 in Grey Matter, Reflections by M

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The so called “war on terror” is not only not working, it is falling flat on its face and taking us down with it.

I must confess that I was quite taken aback to read about the London bombings on the CNN and BBC websites. Where oh where would we be without technology? A personal twist was brought into it because I know people who are there, and hearing it from them was indeed sobering.

It brought back unwelcome memories of the day a bomb went off in Nairobi, in 1998.

I recall at the time I was nowhere near the central business district, that hosted the former US embassy. I was in fact a couple of odd dozen miles away but despite the distance was still able to hear the explosion. A colleague dismissed it as “damn kids and their fireworks!” and the matter dropped.

An hour or so later as we were boarding the bus to take us into town the conductor informed us that we were not, as a matter of fact, going into town, but bypassing it altogether. Our resulting reaction left that gent in no doubt he was deeply unpopular. When he was able to get a word in edgewise, something to the effect as there having been a bomb blast in the CBD, we assured him that we questioned not only his intelligence, but his senses of sight and hearing.

Some ten minutes later we were passing outside the hospital in Hurlingham it became apparent that something was very wrong. There were dozens of people standing outside the hospital, bandaged with suits and dresses covered with dust and blood.

Someone thought to turn on the radio and it was a grim statement indeed that we heard:

“The Ministry Of Health calls on all medical staff, whether on training, on leave or in retirement to report to the nearest hospital to help.”

By the time I got home all the bits and pieces had come in.

There had been an explosion at the US embassy. As curious Kenyans gathered to find out what was happening an even bigger explosion had occurred. An indeterminate number of people had died.

Of course I wasted no time in making my way to the CBD.

I can still remember the feeling of acute shock as I walked towards the site. The explosion had shattered the glass of countless buildings and the pavement was littered with broken glass. I remember the crunching of the glass under my shoes. From the looks of things I was not alone in my shock.

By and large we are a lucky country. We have not had civil wars, so when it comes to violence at such scale we were, and I dare say still are, clueless. Losing a life in an accident is a big deal, but losing dozens of lives to deliberate acts by unknown people?

The site itself .. words cannot express. It had been cordoned off but we could see it from a short distance away. The combined efforts of the army, police, fire services and ambulance were completely unable to cope with the carnage and the wounded. There were dead bodes lying in the rubble. There were wounded people lying on the pavements and the roads.

And Kenyans, as they are wont to do, rose to the occasion and volunteered their private cars and vans and pick-ups and buses to help out.

What I remember most was a man sitting on the pavement with his head in his hands, asking again and again about his wife. I sat down next to him for over fifteen minutes and could not think of a single word to say.

The toll stood at around 200.

Ruminations

No matter how low you set the bar, the human being always manages to find a way to slither under. 3 years later I listened in real time to news of the planes flying into the World Trade Center and I watched in shock as a 747 banked and flew into the side of a building.

The toll? Thousands, including a deeply personal loss I still feel today.

And then there was the Spain bombings. And Bali. And now the London explosions.

I can just imagine the people, still a bit jubilant at getting the Olympics going about their business to find themselves real victims of terrorism. As I am writing this – 37 dead, 700 injured.

I have wondered for a long time just what can drive people to do some of these things to each other. I recall unwittingly watching the video of the unfortunate Nick Berg as he knelt there in bewilderment as someone read a statement in a language he could not understand behind him and the next thing the poor man knew his head was being taken off with a knife. He could not understand what was happening until it was too late.

Needless to say it was weeks before I got a good night’s sleep.

Among us are people who have no qualms about shooting us, blowing us up and beheading us. Beheading us! With a knife!

Among us are people who will go into a Beslan school with hundreds of children and shoot them. Grown men and women ready to shoot innocent little children.

All these incidents beggar the question:

Just what is it that would drive a human being to do this to his fellow human being?

But the more you think about it the more you realize it is not as simple as that.

Now you ask yourself:

Just what is it that would drive a human being to do this to innocent people?

But the more you think about it the question changes yet more subtly:

Just what is it that would drive a human being to feel passionately enough about something to do this to innocent people?

In the papers and in the news we keep reading and hearing about suicide bombers. Think deeply about the concept.

A suicide bomber.

A suicide bomber is going to blow himself up. A suicide bomber is fully aware that he is going to die. He has no doubts about it. There is no ‘if’. There is no ‘perhaps’. There is no getting away, no escape. If he succeeds he will die. If he is intercepted as he tries to perform his act he will die. There are no two ways about it.

But he will wrap explosives around his middle and go into the midst of his fellows and blow himself up.

And he is so convinced, so driven by his beliefs that he does not hesitate.

Now ask yourself — what can make you feel so passionately, so deeply, so totally in something that you’d give your life, that you’d blow yourself up?

It’s very easy to say that you will die for your faith, or for your loved ones. Or die for your beliefs. It is quite easy to say indeed. It is quite another to walk your talk.

It’s not that there are one or two suicide bombers. They have been dozens and dozens, in Israel and in Iraq. As recently as a couple of days ago one donned a police uniform, walked into a mess and blew himself up in Iraq.

There is no short supply of these people who feel this passionately about whatever it is their misguided cause is. They are lining up to blow themselves up. They have been there for years.

It is naive in the extreme to introduce religious connotations into this, and this is the slant that the world seems to have gripped with both hands, inadvertently or otherwise.

The unfortunate thing is that human beings have this tendency to fear things they do not understand, and fear is a very powerful force. Fearful people in large enough numbers are a recipe for disaster.

Sad fact: people do not understand Islam at all, and this has contributed immensely to the problem.

Consider this for instance: Osama Bin Laden and his comrades in arms have declared themselves openly as being staunch Muslims on TV. Now, what would have been the effect had they turned out to be Bible thumping, cross carrying Christians? What if he appeared and after a couple of Our Fathers got to his latest declaration?

I don’t know about you but personally I am convinced the world would have no problem with dismissing him and his associates as a deranged and isolated bunch of crazies.

But since they claim to be Muslims, for some reason the world has a problem divorcing them from Islam at large.

Of course we don’t like to acknowledge this, which is why after we condemn the terrorists we always add that ubiquitous trailer “… we realize that Islam is a religion of peace, and that these are isolated militants.”

Without a doubt that last addendum would not be there had they been Christians.

Even if they are Islam, I find that perpetually referring to them as ‘Islamic Extremists’ is doing little to help, besides subtly drawing an association between the two.

And what is the result? Muslims who have nothing remotely to do with Osama Bin Laden are increasingly finding themselves on the defensive. I have lost count of the number of frustrated Muslims I have run into who always find themselves having to explain their faith is one of peace to an increasingly sceptical audience.

Shortly after the 911 events a number of Muslims were assaulted. People who “look like” Muslims inexplicably have a rough time at airports.

It is just a matter of time before this misguided impression causes a real problem — where the Muslims are living in fear, and like I have said before fear in a large enough number of people is a disaster waiting to happen.

I am not a Muslim by the way. I am a Catholic, and extremely unlikely to defect. I say Hail Mary’s when I’m scared out of my pants. I always carry some sort of cross or the other on me. Every two weeks or so I spend a couple of minutes raising the eyebrows of my priest with my antics of the past fortnight.

I grew up as a wee schoolboy knowing that they were funny people who went to Church on Fridays and their girls could not decide between wearing dresses or trousers and therefore decided to enjoy the best of both worlds and indulge in both. That was as far as my prepubescent knowledge went.

Of course age, experience and knowledge make you wiser. I made some good friends in high school and university who are Muslims. We have had lengthy (and spirited) discussions of religion past and present. I have read the Koran. I know a lot more about the faith than I used to.

I won’t pretend to know Islam, or even half of it but I know for a fact that the gulf between what the Osamas are doing and what I know of the faith is unbreachable.

Just like the Muslims, Christians have their own rotten apples. The things Christians have done to each other in the name of religion are a study of terrorism, from witch hunts to inquisitions and right down to the latest bit of bother between Christians in Northern Ireland. Christians have been clubbing, crucifying, beheading, drawing, quartering and burning each other at stakes for thousands of years.

Protestants and Catholics have been merrily beating, shooting and bombing each other for years in Northern Ireland. It was a rare fortnight indeed that a news announcement as to the latest explosion in Belfast did not make the news.

And I remember after each of these announcements Protestants and Catholics outside Northern Ireland have had no problem concluding that those are a bunch of crazy misguided yahoos and go on to meet at the tee for a rousing game of golf or at the club for a stiff drink and some roasted meat. Can you think of anywhere where Protestants and Catholics did not get along?

It has never been necessary to add a qualifying statement at the end. This is undoubtedly creating another problem.

Just yesterday some Hindu Militants engaged the police in a shoot-out for hours before being silenced.

It has never been necessary to add a qualifying statement at the end.

It is creepy how terrorism and Islam always seem to end up in the same sentence.

My point? Organized religion is a convenient scapegoat for the many atrocities man commits. Man has spent millennia looking for scapegoats for antics, right from blaming snakes for appropriated apples right down to religion to killing others. Osama Bin Laden and his ilk have no problem appropriating Islam for their own use, violating almost all its basic tenets in the process. With all our experience and all the information at our disposal we should be wise enough to divorce the two.

There is something deeper driving these terrorists and we need to find out.

Diseases & Symptoms

“War on Terror” will be an utterly meaningless statement until we find the root of this problem.

Yes, we can speak passionately against terrorists on TV. We can create commissions and committees, declare war, send in Navy SEALs, commandos and special forces to fight terror. We can condemn the terrorists at every opportunity until we are blue in the face. We can form Departments Of Homeland security and unite the workings of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA and the police. We can increase threat levels. We can install cameras and issue ID cards.

The grim reality is that at the end of the day we cannot watch every inch of every border, We cannot read the minds of those flying into airports every day. You cannot watch all those suspicious looking people in the bus with us. unfortunate truth is that at the end of the day we are extremely vulnerable. The terrorists only have to succeed once whereas the security forces must have a 100% record of success, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

The odds cannot be more stacked against them.

Don’t get me wrong — I am not saying we should not be on the lookout and we should not actively seek these people out from wherever they are. We should. We have no choice but to. But despite our best efforts, and even if we succeed 100%, I fear we will remain precisely where we are now. Here’s why.

I watched Tony Blair, Condoleezza Rice and Vladimir Putin all grimly saying that they are going to “fight terror”.

I found myself asking, just what does this mean? What is it to ‘fight terror’?

To find all the terrorists that we can and shoot them?

I’m afraid this will achieve little, if anything: it will be a stop gap measure and a short lived solution at best. If anything, it will exacerbate things. If you intercept a bomber, suicide or otherwise, and shoot him in the head, and go on to parade on TV about your latest victory, in a house somewhere a young man will see his father has been shot dead by “them” and steel himself to complete his father’s work.

Ask the Israelis. They’ve been shooting and arresting suicide bombers for years and years. Things are slowly starting to turn around when someone realized

“Hey, getting rid of these guys is just not working. We need to address why they are willing to kill us, and themselves in the process.”

Those suicide bombers and terrorists who succeed gain a larger than life status to their fellow believers. They gain respect. They become heroes. And somebody somewhere becomes inspired. Those who don’t still drive yet others to take their place.

A scary and obscene corruption Tertullian’s words: “The blood of martyrs is the seed of Christians”.

Finding them and bringing them to justice is not fighting terror. It is fighting terrorists. It is not treating a disease — it is treating symptoms.

We need to delve deep into these people and find out just what it is that is driving them and then maybe we might have an idea of how to if not solve the problem outright, at least ideas on how to approach the undoubtedly long journey that curing the root causes is. Once we do that the symptoms have no choice but to die out as well.

What I do know is that the CIA, the FBI, MI-6, MI-5, special forces, commandos, police and Navy SEALs are not going to deliver this world for the looming threat of terrorism. They’ve been trying for 40 years now, from Baader Meinhoff Gangs to Red Army Factions right down to Al Qaedas.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is just not working. All we are doing is marking time at best, and slipping backwards at worst.

We have to find out what the disease is and treat that, and not the symptoms. We need to actively ignore the smoke and mist and hone in on the real issues. Then can we have a hope of removing this looming threat from our sights.

The time we have to do this, I fear, is not much.

It takes seconds, maybe minutes, maybe hours, maybe days to change minds. But it takes a lifetime to change mentalities.

We may be too late to stop the Osama Bin Laden and his ilk but we had better start right away nipping his successors in the bud.

Right away.

Our prayers are with the victims and their families. God will comfort you.

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  • http://crystalnotsoclear.blogspot.com kipepeo

    last weeks time has a good article on suicide bombers. its amazing the strength of their resolve! what they believe is something that cannot be changed! i have also asked the same questions you do. what in this world and beyond could possible drive someone to do such things to fellow human beings. not just fellow human beings, but inocent ones! its more than sad. we need a miracle.

  • http://blogit.helsinki.fi/aivomassaa/ JussiR

    The problem is that (not necessarily always, but) often what we should do to end the disease is exactly the thing that terrorists are demading us to do. And as in the fraise so familiar from all hollywood movies: “we don’t negotiate with terrorists”.

    There are some sings of more compassionate foreign policy which might also result in reduction of terrorism towards western world (US embassys all over the world included). For example the aim for doubling aid and US announcement on the change of their policy in middle east (which in short says: “instead of supporting bloody regimes we will start supporting democracy”). Wether this is a real long time change remains to be seen.

  • http://farmgal.wordpress.com Farmgal

    thinker I agree with you that we should not blame all muslims afterall its just a small number of people hiding behind Islam who cause/ed great loss all over the world.
    Its difficult for people not to associate Islam with terrosism coz the terroists go to great lengths to tell the world they are doing this in the name of their religion. I feel for those muslims out there who are having to go through a hard time because of the actions of extremists. I hope and pray that we will indeed learn how to separate the two.

  • http://udi-m.blogspot.com Udi

    I couldnt have said it better if I wrote it myself. People say they will not negotiate with terrorists. But when you are guarded by 100 Secret Service and people dont know where you sleep, then you can say that. But when taking the bus means you no longer are assured of getting home, then we need to find out why these people would go to these extremes to kill themselves and anybody else

  • Anonymous

    Please confirm/answer the questionsbelow me…

    Does the koran condemn those who are “not of the book”?

    So unless you are a jew, christian or muslim you are “nothing”?

    Doesn’t islam allow for slavery?
    Doesn’t islam consider all others who practise other religions as (derogatorily)pagans?
    What status does hinduism – which predates islam – buddhism, shintoism, native african religions have in islam?
    Did muhammed & his wives have/own slaves?
    Wasn’t most of islam’s spread by the sword?
    Wasn’t islam in east africa, india, north africa spread by invading armies?
    Didn’t the sultan of oman “annex” zanzibar & coastal tanganyika & kenya & spread islam?
    Why doesn’t islam/muslims allow a church to be built in mecca?
    Didn’t muslims take over the dome of the rock from the jews & build a mosque?
    Didn’t muslims take over the temple dedicated to rama – a major hindu god – & convert it into a mosque for allah?

    Don’t give me that balderdash that the US needs to accomodate islam. If you are a woman then islam is a bad choice but for guys it is great!

    Why does the catholic church get bashed by liberals & apologist about not having women or gay priest but islam is left alone?

  • http://afromusing.com/blog Afromusing

    poignant.
    There was some discussion after 9/11 as to the exact definition of a terrorist. It bears more examination for sure.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/8159034 Sunflower

    This is a good article M! I actually felt like i was walking with you and you were speaking to me as well. Very informative! I like. – Its high time people know that muslims really do get the short end of the stick and not all of them interpretate Islam the way those in the past (read as suicide bombers who claim Islam as their defense) and that this stereotype needs to end!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6048655 M

    @ Kipepeo – But we can start by changing our approach to the whole issue

    @ Jussir – Nowhere have I said we should negotiate with terrorists. All I am saying is that we need to find out what makes them tick, what drives them, why they do the things they do. Unfortunately some of the things we are suffering today were caused by previous leaderships e.g. Saddam, Osama, etc. What flipped them over?

    @Farmgal – but the press, and our leadership go out of their way to say things like “Islamic terrorists”. Why? Why can’t they just say “Terrorists”? This subtle reinforcement by the press and the leadership is already causing problems. I can wager that the Muslim community in Britain is already feeling the effects

    @ Udi – The unfortunate truth is that the wrong people (us) are suffering in this war

    @ Anonymous – Like I said, I don’t pretend to be an Islamic expert. I hope a Muslim passing by here can answer you.

    However having said that your views are not entirely sincere. You have conveniently overlooked the fact that those arguments can be applied just as well to other mainstream religions

    - It’s strange that you seem to have forgotten that all mainstream religions believe that they are the ones who are right. Christians quote Jesus as saying “There is no way but through me.” How many interpretations of that can there be?

    - Didn’t Abraham have slaves? Remind us what happened between Abraham and Hagar

    - Christianity has also been spread through war in Europe. Remember Constantine? Charlemagne? It has also been spread through colonialism!!

    - Hindus also demolished a mosque in Ayodha. You seem to have forgotten that. The Hizma mosque in Jerusalem was demolished by the jews. Funny you forgot to mention that

    If you think the US accommodating Islam is Balderdash my friend than I am very sorry for you. It is precisely sentiments like those that are needlessly raising religions tensions, something we can do without! One Crusade was quite enough, thank you very much.

    Why does the Catholic church get bashed and Islam left alone ? I don’t know. Actually I haven’t thought about it. Hmm… Food for thought. Perhaps it is because Muslims live by the book – their way of life is deeply integrated with religion and so things are spelt out clearly as opposed to Christianity where interpretation of the bible is open (look at how many denominations we have). But to be frank I don’t know

    @ Afromusing – indeed, more thought is needed on this matter if we are to solve it

    @ Sunflower – true, true. We must learn to separate the religion from the acts of some of its errant followers

  • http://spideyfun.blogspot.com Nick

    back in 98 i was at cargen house at ROcky drivnig school beingtold put this car behind this one…and sad thing is that some guys had just left earlier to go drive the lorry and got killed as they passed by the american embassy

    as for that question: even am stuck for words. what cause or goal could ever validate killing others or even killing themselves for. what could possibly have been indoctrinated in these terrorists…where in their upbringin did somethin go wrong?

  • Anonymous

    Gripping stuff!

    You could make a lot of money out of youe (quite considerable) talent. I’m surprised you blog at all – you could kill the blogging thing be putting this in books — they’d sell like the proverbial hotcakes!

    And on that note please check your mail!!

  • http://farmgal.wordpress.com Farmgal

    @M the muslims in Britain have gone to press to plead with the British public not to take it out on them. I know they will suffer for this bombings, I just wish the said terrosist would not read from the Koran before chopping someone’s head off. When they read from the Koran they give the world no choice but to associate terrosism to Islam. So as much as the press and our leaders take some blame the terros do their religion no favours. We the pple of the world are caught between a rock…..

  • http://afromusing.com/blog Afromusing

    just came across this link via eric umansky
    Global War on Terror: “Wrong Concept”
    –General Wallace Gregson, currently commander of Marine forces in the Pacific.

  • Hottentot

    How true M! it’s all about understanding and open mindedness. if people would just take the time to ask simple questions and have dialogue then we would be on a better track. Fighting against someone who loves death more than you love life is like forcing water to flow up stream….

  • Anonymous

    M,

    Dome of the Rock: It was a Jewish Temple before Islam or Muhammad. Archeological digs confirm that. This is not a chicken or egg matter.

    Spain & Portugal: Many churches were converted to mosques during the Moorish reign.

    Ayodhya: Rama precedes Muhammad. For all practical purposes Islam (as we know it) started with Muhammad. In any event, Rama also precedes Islam in India. So the Rama temple was first then (forcibly) converted during the Mughal times into a mosque then destroyed by Hindus in post-independence India. Even then the Supreme Court forbade Hindus from doing further damage. Would a muslim court have done the same?

    Buddha statues in Afghanistan: Buddhism preceded Islam in the region but the statues destroyed by taliban. These were carved by Buddhists not even remotely muslim. How many muslims protested this? Many taliban apologists considered this acceptable – oh, the excuses they had! When was the last time Buddhists attacked muslims? No crusades here! Same point with the Hindus! Militarily they never ventured beyond “greater India” i.e. present day Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, parts of S. East Asia.

    Abraham in the Jewish Torah/Old Testament is the same as Ibrahim for the muslims. BUT Jesus changed the nature of the teachings from “eye for an eye” to “turn the other cheek”. Thus it is Christianity not Judaism. The new way. Abraham was a Jew not a Christian. Muhammad came AFTER Jesus & there is koranic support for slavery. Individuals/groups lke the afrikaners purpoting to be Christians might have supported slavery but not Jesus or New Testament.

    Living by the book: M, you are a pensive fella yet…
    Ok, if the muslims lived by the book then why the broad-based support for terrorism? Is it in the “book”? If you want to substitute mass killings for terrorism, be my guest. After Sept 11, there were many CELEBRATIONS in many muslim lands. Wow, they were living by the book.

    When innocent KENYANS were killed, how many MUSLIM countries condemned the terrorists? After all to many of these muslims, there were just some kaffirs!

    Kaffir is a derogatory term:
    “one who refuses to submit to the one true God”. Kafirs include polytheists and atheists.

    How many actually sent aid to help? I know Israel sent help as did the US, Netherlands, etc!

    Sects = Denominations

    Sunnis, Shias, Nizaris, Ismailis, Druze, Dervishes, Bohras, Sufis, Wahhabis – do you want me to go on?

    I am not anti-muslim or anti-islam but it is the FREE ride people want to give them based on perceived injustices!

    NONSENSE – the muslims were in the forefront of slavery in East Africa but that is hidden & the West vilified. East African slaves did not end in the US but in Arabia & India (then under muslim rule).

  • Anonymous

    @M

    Forgot to mention that no churches, temples, etc are allowed in Mecca then why should muslims have a right to a mosque in Jerusalem, Ayodhya or Nyeri?

    All islamic teachings are not koranic but also from hadiths (stories), annotations, writings, musings, etc. This is similar to writings of Aquinas, etc.

    Wahabbism is considered to be as koranic as one can get. This is the sect/interpretation that considers adultery to be punishable by death, women should not be seen nor heard, death to all infidels, kaffirs, etc!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/10109705 iwtlk

    @ M and Anonymous on the islam question. I highly recommend this book No god but God : The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam
    by Reza Aslan
    . All your questions/ discussion points are discussed and the origins from the veil to jihad are detailed in the book. I now see Islam in another light. Just to clarify I have also read the Koran and never quite understood why so many muslims get violent… this book explained it to me and I also think we can use the term “islamic terrorist”.

  • http://blogit.helsinki.fi/aivomassaa/ JussiR

    “Nowhere have I said we should negotiate with terrorists. All I am saying is that we need to find out what makes them tick, what drives them, why they do the things they do.”

    I compleatly agree with you on trying to understand the motives of terrorists. But after you get beyond the first question that araises to your mind (“how can anyone do anything like this?”), its not really that compilcated – at all. Terrorism araises in societys where some peoples lifes are very miserable and who can’t change the course of their lives no matter how desperately they try to. And if they also feel exploited by the rest of the society (or, like in 9/11, by western world) they are ready to do the most extreme things to change this social structure that they see as the reason for their indisposition (includin becoming a suicide bomber).

    Terrorism of some sort has existed for ages on all levels of society – on personal, national and also globa level. Only differece in 9/11, Madrid and London is that now it was first time used successfully on large scale against rich western nations. And unfortunately the first response from US to this problem was compleatly wrong. The whole concept of “war on terror” is sick, because war is exactly the kind of thing that creates societys that harness terrorism.

    If the rich people of the world want to end terrorism its very easy. We just have to create a world where every person has the opportunity for at least some kind of quality of life. On practical level this can be achieved easily by ending the exploitation of poor countrys. The only question is that are we really motiavated enough in doing this?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6048655 M

    @ Nick – Bahati yako jamaa!

    @ Farmgal – So sad, so sad!

    @ Anonymous – my friend, you seem to have gotten the idea that my points were some sort of justification. They were NOT.

    The point I was trying to make is that those arguments can cut both ways, and indeed any other way. The same arguments can be used for other acts commited in the name of faith by other religions! I was not giving excuses or justifications. Bottom line – all mainstream religions have done atricious things in their chequered histories under the auspices of faith

    But having said that, are you suggesting that being there first gives you carte blanche to do as you please?

    As for Abraham the point I was trying to make is that he kept slaves, or at least one slave.

    And we totally part ways when you say that the Muslims have a ‘broad based support of terrorism’. You are a classic example of the point I am trying to make of enough repetition by presidents, the press and the crazy yahoos like Osama that tie Isman to terrorism.

    And as for those sects/denominations, if you are trying to convince me that Islam is more fragmented than Christianity, try harder

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6048655 M

    @ Jussir – Well said, some food for thought there

  • http://milonare.blogspot.com Milonare

    Where next? Who next?

    I agree with you and Jussir that a change in tactics is what is needed here! Who is it that spoke of “doing the same thing over and over expecting different results…” – certain paraphasic liberties taken here.

    Sometimes a softened stance allows more growth than a hardened stance ever would!!

    BTW, Thanks for dropping by.

  • http://ewe2.ath.cx/blog/ ewe2

    Last night a program i don’t usually watch asked a very pertinent question: “We say we don’t negotiate with terrorists. But who would we negotiate with if we wanted to?”

    I get annoyed when politicians say “They’re trying to stop us doing what we want, trying to destroy our way of life!” No they’re not! They’re just trying to hurt you with the only weapons they have, their own bodies. They don’t have Western resources, and as you say, it’s nothing to do with religion. They feel powerless and cornered, and powerless cornered people resort to desperate measures.

    I fear this has become a PR tool in the clever hands of unscrupulous corporations and bureaucrats. I fear that getting blown up will become an acceptable price for dominating the destinies of the disenfranchised billions. I fear that the G8 heaved a sigh of relief and got back to blaming the victim..

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/9263708 kari

    truth be told(and no offence meant) the reason its so easy to associate terrorism with muslims is coz after most of these attacks, u end up having an islamic group that will take responsibility..after this happening a couple of times,dude it (wrongly) sticks in ur subconsious that islam= terrorism..am not condoning this or saying ati we go out there and stone all the muslims..thats crap!but i am saying that some of them(a small number)are not making matters better for the rest of the other muslims or for the rest of us who try hard(and fail)not to see the association.

  • Wambui

    I was half way through posting on Friday, esp to reply to Anon, but had computer crash. All lost ;-( but will revive (albeit late). In the meantime, here is something else that may add to the argument…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/comment/story/0,16141,1525755,00.html

  • http://kohcohshaven.blogspot.com Ms K

    I fear to tread on such a sensitive matter but here’s my two dururus.

    The truth is that this is not all about religion, is it. And as M says, all religions are guilty of having carried out some form of infamy in the name of their “GOD”. You guys will be here all day trying to ascertain which religion is more guilty than the other for whatever. Don’t walk down that path. Don’t try to justify injustice in any form. Move away from it, denounce, seek justice.

    And the truth is that even if we created a “world of equal opportunity” as Jussir suggests, there would always be someone who felt disgruntled for whatever reason and decide to take it out on others.

    I’m not trying to sound defeatist. But we must accept that evel is as present in our world as good is.

    We must do our best to get to the root of the latest escalation in international terrorism and attempt to nip it at the root. I don’t know whether we will find solutions. I don’t know.

    What I do know is that accusations and counter-accusations help no-one, and in many cases foment latent prejudices, biases.

    And I do know that there are Muslims I would have in my corner ANY day of the week.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/6048655 M

    @milonare – can’t add anything to that doing the same thing over and over expecting different results

    @Ewe2 – We are truly in a morass. I listened in amazement to Bush say that the only way was to be on the offence. Is he kidding? We’ve been on the offence for more than 40 years!

    @Kari – Terrorists in Ireland made no secret of their religion. Why is it that people have never made the connection but insist on doing so in this case? It is a recipe for disaster

    @Miss K – Well said.

  • http://www.suitcasing.com Daniel

    Good article!

  • Anonymous

    @M
    Offence if the best form of defence. When they don’t have the ball they can’t attack.

    As Ms K said, there will ALWAYS be disgruntled elements. Even if we all converted to islam there would still be new disagreements.

    M – there are plenty more sects & sub-sects of islam. It is NOT a homogenous religion. Christianity after Martin Luther allowed for debate thus the multiplicity of denominations. Your head was not chooped off coz you disagreed. Well, not in modern times.

    If muslims are so secure of their religion why don’t they allow a church, synagouge or temple to be built in mecca or medina?

  • Anonymous

    When Chamberlain appeased Hitler… what we got was the holocaust – including millions Russians, Poles, Homosexuals, Gypsies & Jews. The Nazis were initially a small group who managed through effective recruiting & sheer fear raised their numbers, took over a country & its military.

    When you think of osama or other terrorists, they are of a similar mold. Give an inch & they will take a yard!

    Look at our MPs, give them huge salaries & they want more perks (cars, golden handshakes), tax-free income & free mbuzis (ndwiga)…

    I am sure the muslims have valid gripes BUT some of them are of their own making. Their leaders are corrupt thus the BILLIONS of $$ (not KShs) al gone to waste. A small country like Kuwait pulls in more oil income than East Africa does selling EVERYTHING.

    If Iran & Iraq had not gone to war then they would have had thriving economies. Don’t blame US or UK when Saddam could have firmly said to NO to war with Iran. Instead he had a huge state “security” organisation like Kenya’s Special Branch. We know SB was used to crush political opponents. Imagine that money going to better civic education!

    Bottomline: Most of the time you are responsible for your actions.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/10298094 Savco

    Here are my two cents. Earlier on I came across these three Machiavellian quotes:

    “It is in the interest of the weak to design societies that encumber the strong.”

    “The essential difference between the terrorist and the noble conqueror is the quality of the army.”

    “Morality is ultimately defined by those with superior force and sufficient time.”

    If the first quote is taken into a global context, then the areas of the world which fail to keep pace with the rest of the world will see a decline of their political, economic and most important military sphere of influence. Some foreign power will invariably be able to project its own political, economic and military sphere of influence over these areas. These weak societies will be forced to fight the strong ones with whatever tools and tactics at their disposal.

    This brings me to the second quote. Unfortunately since these societies are weak economically, militarily etc the quality of their “army” suffers. Hence they automatically get branded “terrorists.” Even George Washington and his militia Continental Army did not escape this fate.

    Despite the fact that we in Africa consider terrorism and its causes to be an alien concept, we have in deed undergone what the Middle East is undergoing. We have had/still have foreign political, economic and military sphere of influence projected over us (colonialism/neo-colonialism). When we tried to fight these influences, all we could raise were ragtag guerilla units – Mau Mau, Maji Maji etc. Hence they were branded terrorists even to this day. Now, just because it happened to us in the past doesn’t mean it won’t happen again or that in deed it is not already happening.

    Moral of the story? We need to get our act together as Africans. Redefine our identity (nationality, borders etc), make our economies and technology keep pace with the rest of the world.

    Most importantly, we need to develop a competent, disciplined, well funded and well equipped military, whose quality would never be doubted. Only then can we avoid finding ourselves labeled “terrorists” as our grandfathers were. Gaddafi might be eccentric but he does have a point when he calls for a United States of Africa with a common military.

    I think the sentiments of the various Anonymouses illustrate the third quote.

  • ni2

    I stopped asking why people do things a long time ago. I think the thing that just shocked me was the Rwandan Genocide. Cutting of a child’s arm it just too much for me.

    Question
    If say Iraq was left to the iraq’s etc would this end? (dumb question but Im still asking)

    As for suicide bombers – this is the only way they know how to fight.

    I dont hear people saying how innocent children are being killed in Iraq or the Middle east! When it hits you (eg when we were attacked in 98) that is when it feels more real.

    Let me stop here before I start spwaning other unrelated issues.