Having Cake And Eating It
16
January
I’ve been suffering from a very acute flu for the past few weeks. Each and every joint I had ached as if it was getting good money to do so. My nose decided that it was equally as capable as my feet of undertaking the task of running. My head decided to notify me by throbbing painfully after every heartbeat, without a doubt under the impression anything the heart could do it could do as well.

This however did not stop me from more or less attempting to get around to my various duties, and, naturally, getting involved in a very heated debate.
This past few months have seen an unusual influx of Kenyans in the diaspora from the various countries and counties that they diaspora in. Following is a sample 2 week schedule of one such cowboy
Day 1
Arrive in the country at some ungodly hour of the night and proceed to call up everyone you know to inform you are around
Day 2
Find bearings. Get used to :
- Driving on the left
- Ever changing geography of Nairobi
- largely ignored highway code
Day 3
Meet the family. Hug everyone. Give away the gifts that were limited by (in descending order)
a) Budget
b) Airline personnel
c) Customs personnel
Day 4
Go to see the grand folks in shags
Day 4
Back in town, meet the friends and chart out a solid 10 days of enjoyment
Day 5 - Day 10
Attempt to visit all the discotheques, clubs, bars, coffee houses, movie halls and restaurants in and around Nairobi
Day 11 - Day 14
Go to coast
Day 15
Leave town in a hurry, carrying nothing more than an amazing hangover and pleasant memories
Good times, good times. And us locally based sons and daughters of our parents also attempt to stuff as much fun as possible into the remainder of the year. In this haste we generally forget that the December salary is actually supposed to be spent in January, but that is for another day.
But I’ve digressed enough. A couple of days ago I was having coffee and throat lozenges with a conglomeration of Kenyan Tourists (KTs ™ ) and Kenyan Roots(KRs™ ) until the discussion took an interesting turn.
The discussion as usual swiftly swiveled into politics and the state of affairs of Kenya. Nothing can neatly divide the diaspora from the locals better than this topic.
Armed with copies of the Washington Post, the Economist and numerous clippings from the online version of the newspapers, and memories of conversations with ambassadorial staff, and the odd clip on CNN and BBC the KTs™ will pontificate just how good governance and the economy has grown in leaps and bounds, and how things are looking much better under Kibaki’s able leadership. They will be pleasantly surprised that Nairobi has become a safe haven where the lion will lay with the lamb.
Armed with copies of police abstracts, medical bills and numerous physical and emotional scars, and memories of conversation with gangsters, us KRs™ will wonder exactly what the KTs have been smoking, and when it expired. We will wonder what manner of good governance has a cabinet that is precisely a third of the entire community of members of parliament. We will wonder which economy is this that grew, and where its mother keeps it indoors because we have never seen it. All we see are steadily rising prices of everything. We will question Kibaki’s ability to lead his shadow through a doorway. We will wonder about this security business when police themselves are being shot by the day, and when people who yawn carelessly in down town Nairobi finish their yawning without realizing they have been relieved of wallet, belt, tie and tooth fillings in that brief interval between opening mouth and closing it.
Naturally fierce and enthusiastic debate will ensue and after everyone is flushed under the collar, a subtle change is introduced when someone finally concedes that there is a problem or two in Nairobi, and wants to know what can be done t fix them.
It is at this point things began to hum.
“By building Kenya,” a KT™ declared impressively rising to all of his four feet and banging the table with a fist for effect.
The agreement was unanimous, and there was peace until I sneezed (while holding top of head to keep it from exploding) and fired the shot that sunk the ship.
“And just how do you build Kenya from a very comfortable air conditioned apartment, complete with goldfish, in New York?”
This particular KT™ floundered briefly.
Another spoke up, haughtily informing me that she sent thousands of dollars to Kenya over the past couple of years.
And it was there that the camel’s back was broken.

Thousand and thousands of Kenyans leave these hallowed shores to go abroad to study. Each has their own reasons
- They can afford to
- What they want to study is not offered here
- To say the magical sentence “I’m flying out”
- They’ve gotten a chance to study at a good school
- Just because
And so they depart. The entire clan is at Jomo Kenyatta Airport to see them off. Everyone, from the family patriarch to the family livestock and poultry is there. While the several dozen uncles, aunts, bothers and sisters deposit kisses on the cheeks of the excited students, the family poultry deposit guano everywhere. Tearful goodbyes are exchanged and the student leaves, ostensibly for four years to study Nuclear Physics / The Mating Habits of the Equatorial Baboon.
Five, six, seven years later, there is puzzlement as to why the student has not returned.
Bewildered relatives corner the father in a bar.
No, Waithera did not switch to Music then to Theatre then to Engineering then to Catering like so many of her fellows. She did not acquire a credit card for each day of the month and then spend days hiding from creditors in a manner that the Special Forces and Navy Seals would do well to emulate. She was not forced by circumstances to get 5 jobs that consigned her studies to a distant back bench.
She stuck to her Nuclear Physics and indeed completed, Summa Cum Laude, Quid Pro Quo, Et Cetera, Nolle Prosequi, Ave Maria, some five years ago.
Then why is she not returning? Because she has decided to live there. She now works for NASA.
“In fact,” the proud patriarch says happily taking a swig of his Tusker Malt, “She was just telling me that she has developed a vehicle constructed entirely from bamboo, fishing line, timber and a watch battery. It is powered principally by the warmth in the human breath, and speaking for five minutes into a little unit gives the car power to travel 100km. Of course if given to a politician he can travel to the moon and back, ha ha!”
“But,” asks a cousin morosely, who forgets to hide his ulterior motives, “Is that to say she is not coming back?”
“She says not in the foreseeable future,” the patriarch says polishing off the Malt and then hailing the barman.
“However she sends me a good bit of money every month and so, my friends, help me reduce this thousand dollars to more manageable levels. Drinks all around my good man!”
There are several thousand Waitheras out there. In the North America. In Europe. In Asia. Indeed, even in other countries in Africa. It’s just a matter of time before South Africa and Botswana start speaking Kiswahili. I vaguely recall some report some weeks back that suggested that Kenya was one of the top contributors of students aboard in the world.
We have several dozen thousand very able scientists, doctors, surgeons, lawyers, IT professionals, authors, musicians, artists, researchers, scholars, engineers and architects all around the world, doing sterling work wherever they are.
Which is good. When opportunities present themselves, grab them. If they don’t present themselves, you go out and get them. Once Harvard / Yale / MIT / Princeton are through with you, and empower you to join the working masses you have in many ways triumphed over adversity.
Naturally, while studying for your degree, you don’t stop living. You come to the realization that in some places it is a big deal for power to disappear. That opening a tap and getting running water is not a pleasant surprise. Some countries have realized that roundabout is Ancient Greek for one person wasting three other people’s time. Some politicians resign because they have been accused of some misdemeanor. That you can apply for a job, do your shopping and pay your bills without leaving the house and dealing with sweaty gentlemen who breathe through their mouths and do not believe in Colgate.

There are plenty of reasons for one to decide that the grass is indeed greener on the other side and decide to settle there. And so a good many do precisely this and go on to settle abroad and get jobs with NASA, IBM, Microsoft, on Wall Street, etc. They will do those jobs and be equally adept, if not more, than the residents.
It is therefore amusing for Waithera, lead researcher for NASA and Onyango, Head of Design at IBM to come to Nairobi for holiday and while seated across from me, purport without batting an eyelid to be working round the clock building Kenya.
You are doing nothing remotely of the kind.
Any innovations you make there will be the property of NASA and IBM, ergo any benefits above and beyond a handsome bonus cheque to you will go straight to NASA and IBM. Your ingenuity is building NASA, IBM and the USA.
Waithera’s car will be made at a cost price of4$ and will turn up for sale in Kenya some 5 years later at a pocket friendly price of 1,000$. If 1 million Kenyans buy this car they will send a grand total of 1,000,000,000,000 dollars straight to the United states GNP, which they can undoubtedly find uses for like building roads and disaster management. In the United States.
While Onyango is developing processors the size of a crumb of bread that can be powered by a watch battery and run for a month on it, the Ministry of Science and Technology still operates a behemoth whose processor is the size of Chris Murungaru and produces about as much hot air and sweat.
Now just imagine how many hundred thousand Waitheras and Onyangos we have working and building USA, UK, Switzerland, Holland, Spain, Belgium, and a dozen other countries with their skills and know how.
If they all returned to Kenya and took charge of ministries, parastatals and the private sector, starting KASA and KBM it would just be a matter of time before we start being known for something other than running.

Before we build our own industries. Before we build nuclear power plants and stop being at the mercy of rain and shine. Before we laugh at the hypocrisy of George Bush and Tony Blair whining about Iran’s nuclear program while they are doing the exact same thing.
Before my computers come in boxes saying “Made In Kenya” and not “Made in the USA”.
Before we tell pontificating condescending, professional activists like Bob Geldof and Jeffrey Sachs to take their magic bullet experimental formulae and stick them in a location that depends on how tightly these magic bullet experimental formulae can be rolled up.
I have nothing against settling overseas. After all, all of us dream of having a good life and are always in pursuit of actualizing our dreams. I don’t even have a problem with changing citizenship if it brings you closer to your dreams. The sad truth is that patriotism is not particularly edible and it’s difficult to remember the words of the national anthem when you’re hungry.
What I take issue with is pontificating about how things are going to the dogs, how the country is run by nitwits and how you’re correcting the situation and building your country by wiring money from the comfort of your New York apartment, complete with goldfish..
You can’t have your cake and eat it.
I’m sorry to inform you that sending money is not building anything, besides offices for Western Union. It does not build Kenya anymore than trainee teachers build schools by declining to return to teach after training and sending money instead.

Sending money merely allows Kenya to run on the spot at best. It allows your nearest and dearest to subsist. It pays bills. Nothing more nothing less. Spare us the absurd notion that we should be grateful to you for the greenbacks you mail every month in the guise of building the country. Attempting to place your wired money on a pedestal is merely massaging your conscience.
Which is not to say you should not send money. Au contraire. If it keeps roofs over heads of wee tots, pays the odd bill, clothes backs and educates a few, carry on. If it enables cantankerous old men to down rounds at the local bar, soldier forth. At least you’re sharing your spoils.
You can’t have your cake and eat it.
The United States we know today was, and continues to be built by the English and the Irish and the Chinese and the Mexicans and the Italians and the Indians and the Russians and the Japanese and the Germans who live and work there. And of course by poor Africans who had a remarkable incentive program called the whip and were not distracted by little things like wages and unions.
Money does not build countries. People working does. Do not for half a second delude yourself otherwise.
You can’t have your cake and eat it.
There is only one way to build Kenya.
Come back and work.
Alanis Morissette - Uninvited




1. msaniixl
(77 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 11:01 am
Truth.com…
2. WGK
(12 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 2:07 pm
That, my dear friend, is two parts harsh and one part truth. No comment for the moment. Let’s see what people say (can’t wait to read the aggrieved protestations).
3. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
Heh heh let me sit back and watch heads roll…
Glad you’re feeling better!
4. WGK
(12 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Actually, I can’t wait that long. M, you’re a highly trained, absolutely brilliant IT something-or-other (programmer, I assume, but I could be wrong). Let’s imagine someone - a friend, a lover, a colleague - forwarded your CV to some firm in, pick a country - the US, SA, Hong Kong, Rwanda, whatever. The firm was absolutely impressed with you, as people tend to be with Kenyans for whatever reason. They offered you a nice juicy or meaty package, depending on your appetite, and to cap it all off, it was for a short-term (three years) renewable contract. In all honesty, would you decline it, in the name of patriotism?
However I would not kid myself that by working in the US, SA, Hong Kong, Rwanda, or sending money back is building Kenya. Yes I am meeting my goals, yes I am actualizing myself and yes I am sending shoes to my brother for his birthday but the truth of the matter is that very few, if any, of the benefits what I am doing accrue back to build my country.
If my contract is designing and implementing e-governance infrastructure, and I do it in Rwanda, who are the beneficiaries? Rwandans or Kenyans? And just how many orders of magnitude would that contribute to building Kenya if I went home and implemented it there rather than wiring back 5,000$ to my folks?
5. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
LOL my dear friend you speak the truth lakini…
“She was just telling me that she has developed a vehicle constructed entirely from bamboo, fishing line, timber and a watch battery. It is powered principally by the warmth in the human breath, and speaking for five minutes into a little unit gives the car power to travel 100km. Of course if given to a politician he can travel to the moon and back, ha ha!”
LMAO You are so silly!!
“And of course by poor Africans who had a remarkable incentive program called the whip and were not distracted by little things like wages and unions.”
Maybe you should get the flu more often. It seems to have sharpened things huko ndani!
6. Guessaurus
(122 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Pole about the flu my friend - there are places that offer warmth and tlc for that kinda thing
Pouting at “Day 1
Arrive in the country at some ungodly hour of the night and proceed to call up everyone you know to inform you are around” - it wasnt me, I swear I didnt do it.
As for the rest of your true essay - anything I do say can and will be used against me. Will come back and watch this one from the sidelines.
Good work M
7. barelyvisible
(1 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
The issue is a moral one. M’s arguments are solid. I heard this rumour that MSFT are hiring Africans to develop systems (in C++). At first, I thought the whole thing is a huge joke, until I received an email from their recruiter. Despite not being too crazy about MSFT, I would have taken the offer without batting an eyelid if I had succeeded.
I will spare you all the lame arguments. I am in this for the money and the money only. Kenya, and its economy can take the high road to hell for all I care. And its not that I am not patriotic, I am as patriotic as the next guy.
It is by the same breath that as an employee, you feel nothing for your employer. You can only drag me through mud if I don’t have a choice.
I remember reading somewhere: The price of absolute freedom is borderline anarchy. Its just a pity that we get royally scr**d, on all fronts. So, for the foreseeable future, people will run North, because they don’t care or are just greedy, like yours truly.
8. eclipse
(110 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
Day 5 - Day 10
Attempt to visit all the discotheques, clubs, bars, coffee houses, movie halls and restaurants in and around Nairobi>>>
i hav been a beneficiary of the above
M the flu must hav got all the cogs in ur head working perfectly again….the TRUTH must be told……
lemme get back to building the nation “by not expecting dollars from the states”
9. Guessaurus
(122 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 3:36 pm
What do you want me to say?
I agree with you and I am guilty as charged.
I don’t remember though ever having said that I was building the country - I am even guilty of being ignorant of current affairs in Kenya till recently coz I felt they didn’t necessarily affect me directly. Shoot. I admitted that out loud (should I be ducking some e-stones?)
Yes, I am also guilty of massaging my conscience by feeling that coz I was doing so much for my family, I was doing enough - heck - everyone to their own, right
?
So how is that for pussyfooting?
Now while here, let me throw the first stone..
Q: When you wake up every morning to go to work oh you KR, having done a bloody good job the previous day and wanting a repeat performance (and no, I don’t mean infecting all your work colleagues with your flu virus - I know we are meant to share in our good fortunes, but that wasn’t what they meant) is your bottom line in your consciousness about building Kenya or the bottom line of your bank statement?
[Please be gentle with me, its high noon where I'm at
Doesn't mean you have to burn me at the stake ]
I won’t mince words. Indeed my core motivation is putting mangoes on my table and Coke in my fridge. However there have been situations where in the process of doing this I have been called upon to use the talents I have for the benefit of the country, and I have done so.
10. chepkemboi
(14 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 3:41 pm
Point taken. Now I’m afraid, very afraid.
And, pole for the flu
Lastly, happy new year.
11. Chrenyan
(137 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
Well, having differentiated from being out there to work for the good of oneself and one’s family and being out there and purporting to build Kenya by wiring money back, I think that it does hold a lot of truth. But it mightn’t be wholly true to say that all the money sent back does not do a thing to build Kenya. The amount of money sent here is large (I can’t remember off head) and there are many beneficiaries apart from malt-swigging old men, such as our very own Stock Exchange. It cannot compare with those sending the money coming to live here, but it is something…
12. Prousette
(139 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
” coffee and throat lozenges” in what order? Their flavors clash dramatically.
Pole sana for the flu. Are you still contagious?
13. Chrenyan
(137 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Flu? I’m out for less than a week, and look what happens!
Pole sana, sana.
Here are some figures: “Kenyans in the UK alone send Kshs. 50 billion annually. The Kenya Club Annual Bank Survey for Kenyans Abroad estimates that Kenyans remit not less $1 billion annually to Kenya.”
Source: Speech to President Mwai Kibaki by Kenyan Community in the UK 20 September 2005.
Now, that’s a lot of money. If it’s not building our nation, what can? Even if it’s drank, EABL profits go up and someone more constructive earns a fatter salary, or pockets some dividend. Can’t count for nothing…
14. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
” We will wonder which economy is this that grew, and where its mother keeps it indoors because we have never seen it ”
That is a classic.
15. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
She stuck to her Nuclear Physics and indeed completed, Summa Cum Laude, Quid Pro Quo, Et Cetera, Nolle Prosequi, Ave Maria, some five years ago.
For avoidance of doubt Nolle Prosequi is a legal term M surely you can do better than that. LOL
16. Keguro
(33 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
“Building Kenya.”
Why does that sound like a wonderful euphemism?
As the youngest of three siblings educated abroad, I’ve learned a lot about “building Kenya.”
My siblings, more patriotic than I, decided to return home, eager to use their considerable talents and very expensive degrees. Both have worked in the private and public sectors.
Both received: what new ideas are those? Learn how we do things here. Or, women are useful on a man’s arm or in his bed. Or, what do you mean there’s something wrong with corruption? Or, how dare you criticize decisions to hire untrained, unskilled, people? Don’t you know those are my relatives?
Their experiences are not unique.
Even with these fossils in place one can get things done — look at the success of the lobby to get JamboNet nuked, or to get VSATs liberalized. It’s hard but its possible. And it will get easier if there are enough of us waiting at the wings to show these fossils to the door
Sending back money is not enough. Agreed. Many who return work in private firms, or if having the right connections, work for their parents or friends of parents. It’s incestuous. It’s elitist.
But countries are “developed” when structural conditions allow for it. Develop your own businesses, the government says, and then eats up time and money as you struggle to obtain the proper documents and set up.
I work in education. Why don’t universities, private families, and foundations set up endowed professorships to recruit the best and the brightest? Or simply the available?
Create your own opportunities, you say. Sounds good in theory.
Show up with yet another degree–and we have many degrees floating around in Kenya–no money for investment (because, contrary to what many think, students don’t make money), many grand ideas (Kenya is nothing if not full of ideas), and try to develop Kenya by looking for a job for 3 years (I look to my siblings’ experiences for this figure)?
Put another way, the proposition sounds like this: Marry this old syphilitic man who is sliding into dementia. He demands sex all day and will beat you when you’re not servicing him. In return, you get a legal name: Patriot.
Charming.
17. KM
(62 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Woi, pole for the homa m’dear. Go on have some sex. It helps for swear!
Now onto devil’s advocate mode
This discussion on brain drain always makes me maaaaaaaaaaaaaddddd M. We have to, have to face the fact that there are limited opportunities locally and
the 5% GDP growth (We dont see it but they say it, the bastards) will not change that overnight.
Therefore the only solution is for us to export labour.
This idealistic one of staying….only makes miserable kenyans. The exported dudes will send some money back home and the multiplier effect on the economy will spur the economic growth. I know people keep saying that does not help jack, but I read somewhere Kenyans in the UK alone send Kshs. 50 billion annually.(That sounds too unrealistic, but it could have been million, but yes, its not about the figures but Billion looks gooder). You have to know that many Kenyans abroad have strong ties with the home country and would love to be more involved more than by merely sending money to help with the hospital bills etc.
Even if its a guy enjoying pints, or a kid getting a new pair of shoes (I donno how that helps, but it does) And that, whether productive or consumptive, does aid the economy.
Indirectly maybe, but eventually the ripple effect is a welcome addition).
You cannot tell people to come back and work!
Young, qualified Kenyans here feel lost and alienated now. Bright futures are being squandered by a bunch of kleptocrats, whose productivity has been totally depleted, who have one foot in grave and who have sacrificed the whole country and left this angry generation holding the tab, with little to look forward to and even less to hope for.
Give me one goddamn good reason why I will not snap at an opportunity to do better for myself, since no one gives a fuck anyway?
DO you think anybody gives about the country? The leaders, the politicians, the bloody politicians, damn them, who should be making policies to make us stay have shown us about survival for the fittest….this is all about survival.
That said, the government or the powers that be know very damn well what brain drain has done to the country, they rant and rave about it, asking us to stay and build our country yet in true idiot style they cannot make policies that work, or keep it together long enough to convince people that making an investment in anything at all in this sad country is worthwhile.., that this country has a future? Kenya desperately needs skills and investment, and now especially when the economy is in shambles, anything short of pleasing the brain drain statistics (of which are in plenty on this KBW) will ensure an exodus of young educated Kenyans who are the only ones likely to challenge the status quo and thereby leave the bloodthirsty hounds to continue running our country into a pit.
I agree with you on the IDEAL solution, to come back and work. On the surface, it sounds nice, but it ignores the basic human trait; quest for perfection. For me, staying would dash my dreams if everything I attempted often ended up either in failure or at least “less than I could be.” We have to also accept things as they are and favour the practical method of dealing with it. Nothing you can say my dear M, people will leave for as long as the conditions remain unfavorable.
clownspokesman says. If an opportunity avails itself, grab it.I am angryyyyyyy..the next plane out, my ass is outta here M. I will wacha you here!!!
LOL, ati quid pro quo ave maria….you are mad! But nice post. Yumm, loved it loved it loved it..made me think…. And sorry for blooging on you!
18. KM
(62 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
Ngai Lord! That comment is long….pole. I just couldn’t stop
19. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
My comment now. I think you are absolutely correct M, no one could ever say it better. You really don’t have to work for anyone to prove you went to school, why don’t you set up your own shop and in that way you employ one two more people who will educate their children and pay taxes too to our very own government.
Kenya is a lovely country and if everyone could come and spend their money here every year we would grow in leaps and bounds.
20. chepkemboi
(14 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Okay, that was pussyfooting.
I guess what you’re asking is for us to be more concious of what nation-building means.
I guess you’re also saying that only we can develop (how I’m beginning to hate that word) our country.
I’m still pussyfooting.
Okay M, here comes;
What if I come back home and don’t get a job, such that, not only will I not be able to send anyone even one dollar, I’ll also become a burden to my folks ? And, I don’t have ati a big chunk of cash to start an import-export company, consultancy or hairdressing saloon. And no, it’s not because I’ve been busy nikijienjoy huku ng’ambo, it’s because life here is very expensive and even whatever we send home is a big sacrifice.
I have two children, without a good job I’ll not be able to send them to good schools (and don’t tell me ati education in primo is now free, we all know that that’s one of Kibaki’s bigger cons). Here, they go to school for free.
Ditto health care, etc, etc.
The situation is not clear-cut at all, and it is not that those of us abroad are not patriotic. For me it is a good place to be at the moment, in terms of career, finance and family life.
Your post reminds me of a colleague I had. She grew up in Germany after WWII. She talked of the reconstruction of Germany, and how all were involved, men, women and children in picking up bricks from bombed buildings for re-use in reconstruction. And she told me that she felt this collective effort, as well as a willingness to get hands dirty was missing in Kenya (she lived and worked in Kenya for decades). Perhaps she was right.
On another note, an e-mail I was sent by a friend - this is true:
‘A German reporter was interviewing an African man working in a garage.
The man is holding a spanner and is dressed in overalls. In the course of the interview I learn that he is from Ghana. But he is not just any ordinary Ghanaian, no no he is a King. Yes, King to a certain tribe or village of about 600 people.
It was obvious that the reporter was completely flabbergasted. At some point they were in the Kings tiny apartment - you know how small the apts are here. He proudly showed the reporter his crown and pictures of his subjects.
On being asked why an african king is working in a garage and living in Europe(Germany), he said that he can help his people better when he is here in Germany. On being asked how he manages to rule his people while living abroad….he had no ready answer’
Okay, now I’m meandering and rambling - I just wanted to say that there are different reasons for different people.
One last thing, there are some of us who would never have had any opportunies staying in Kenya, and may never have contributed at all to our families.
Okay, I’ve stopped blogging on your blog
21. Chrenyan
(137 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
It looks, M, as if asking people to live and work and build Kenya while conceding that if people leave for their own gain are two arguments that cancel each other out. People leave to better themselves. So how is it possible to say that you can ask people to come back and build Kenya? You have just asked them to leave for their own good!
The figures are inflated, ’tis probably true. But the ripple effect! Just because a family spends the money sent to them from Monday to Tuesday, that area has that much more cash in circulation. It will wind up somewhere where it can do something. Of course, it would be much better if the “billion” could come in sizable lumpsums as investments. But it’s what they can do.
Also, I feel it’s not fair to ask anyone to sacrifice the conveniences and “things-work-here”-ness of life in the West on the altar of love for the Motherland and wanting to build it. If the Motherland hadn’t kicked them out in the first place they’d never have gone. Let Kenya attract its diaspora back into the country. Until then, we ought to take what comes.
22. Udi
(14 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
lol. damn. hitting the nail on the head. anyway, me I only build KBL.
23. Belle
(2 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 7:34 pm
sorry about the flu…i hope you feel better soon.
i’m not kenyan, but considering that your post could have been referring to a large number of sub-saharan african countries, i think my two cents…err two cedis will be relevant.
i take issue with your dismissal of remittances by KT’s, they definitely don’t replace human capital, but they certainly have a very important place. A report by the office of the UN advisor on africa noted that remittances to sub-saharan africa have outstripped FDI to the region. that’s a pretty powerful amount of money, some of which DOES go to starting businesses, and sustaining small enterprise. the report also raised a point i found really interesting, but sadly true. the money sent by children/uncles/siblings abroad goes directly to the families, often desperately in need of it. can the same be said of government expenditure purportedly targeted at these low-income families. i think this makes remittances particularly powerful.
on another point you raised, it’s great to be idealistic about returning home to work and build the country, but how many bright, optimistic young africans haven’t returned only to be burned by intolerable bureaucracy, a dismissal of their ideas, an inability of their sole voice for right in the midst of corruption etc. to be heard over the rest? lots of change needs to be made but it is really hard for one person/a few people to return home and have far-reaching impact on a society set in its ways. infact, sometimes ( sadly) they just join it, ( and what is worse than an educated criminal?)
i’m sort of playing devil’s advocate here, because i really don’t believe that the answer is for young africans educated outside their countries ( like myself i should admit) to sit back and make monthly trips to western union since “nobody would listen if i went back anyway”, but you must admit it is a difficult situation.
my favourite point though, and the sad reality for many of us though is that ‘patriotism is not edible’
24. KM
(62 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
*blushin*…honorary Groupie…you honor me so. Thank you kind sir!
M, what do you mean multiplier effect eh? Si the way spending has an effect in the economy…more value than what is spent. Say, you send me some money, I drink it, the bartender takes it, he builds a house or pays school fees for his kids…etc, KBL makes some money and employs one more person..etc..(Thats it! I am not drinking again! I am making people rich!)No, but really if I remember well, that is what it was. I could be wrong….
Anyway, you say people to come and work, then you say they go grab opportunities…which is which M? Eh? Ni gani unataka?
You know why you cannot tell people to come back to work?
People will not come back as long as the conditions remain as they are. You said it yourself, that people can only be patriotic when they have food in the stomach, for some of us, a beer and some chocolate and some jewellery and some coke………..*wanders off*
No seriously, I understand that if everyone leaves no one will make the change, but who will stay unless the situation favors them? Is that not the trade off then? That if you want people to stay, you have to make it good for them to stay?
And I am not saying that being away is the only way to make it…but if you are here, and the market cannot afford you the opportunity to work and be paid for your work, then the realistic solutions will dominate the ideal ones.
Idealism increases in direct proportion to one’s distance from the problem. That said, unless you are in the thick of things, it is rather difficult to see the situation realistically. That is why my darling M, because you can buy afford to have coke in your fridge, you can never beat any sense into a random Kenyan who has no job or any idea where his next emal will come from. Something to do with self-actualisation….that our needs are different at every stage. You, you are onaing patriotism, and nobly so, the other guy is thinking basics, food, financial security, health…Sometimes being at the bottom of the heap is not one’s fault. It may be a result of someone else’s negligence.
Try telling a frustrated Kenyan who has been in Uni for 6 years and cannot find a decent job that he cannot go to America to seek some milk and honey because errrmmm he should stay and build his country. If you succeed, tell me how.
The government…I tell you, blame it all on the government, its crappy policies, its crappy politicians, its lack of priorities, its collosal BS,….getting angry again…..
The way I see it, and it is only an opinion, we all need to be inspired about our future otherwise we would lack the drive to face the challenges that go with a fulfilling life.
So, since the system won’t work, the realistic solution might as well come from building a strategy based on a realistic view of ourselves as well as a realistic view of the current conditions. That is what the policy makers need to realise. I do not know what solution that is yet…(takers anyone?)
There is me, I did not think this blog would be long thus!
25. y5next
(1 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
Thinker,
While I agree whole-heartedly, I can write a book repudiating most, if not all of it, from experience. Time being a commodity I can’t afford to waste, the short version is, Waithera chooses to stay and build NASA and/or IBM because they value IDEAS and compensate handsomely for them. When/If that same appreciation is displayed by our glorious government, there shall be a stampede back, much like the wildebeests trek north when the rains come… Unitl then, patriotism be damned…Like you said, it doesn’t feed anyone…
P.S. Happy New Year!!!
26. Brother Jero (BJ)
(12 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Glad you are feeling better.
Well even sending that money home to pay bills does improve the quality of life and that’s what it’s all about. As much as we preach about giving them the fishing rod to fish for themselves, sometimes just that fish (mbuta) once in a while does sure help and bring smiles around.
Great entry though.
27. Farmgal
(99 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 11:44 pm
flu! I am currently nursing my second flu in three months! I wonder ilitoka wapi…via messenger me thinks.
I agree with you, the only way to jenga the nation is for guys (not me though) to go back to kenya and do the necessary.
I have never skiad anyone saying that by sending cash back home, from their air conditioned New york flat is building the nation. That is more like ‘building ‘ your family!
I will say no more coz of the flu plus alot has alredy been said.
28. JKE
(52 Comments) | January 16th, 2006 at 11:45 pm
I think it is a good start to at least talk about this issue. What bugs me the most with lots of ppl is their disinterest in society and how they could actually contribute in their own ways.
29. Whispering Inn
(26 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 12:39 am
Pole for the flu M.
Great post. Kenya can only be built by Kenyans. Of course you know well why people leave and what it would take for them to return. It’s an issue of economics and (by extension) politics. The catch is quality leadership. But it’s a real catch 22 - elections, quality candidates, people voting right …… (I am not naive.)
Will return this year to participate in next year’s elections. However see Belle’s comment above.
P.S. - Flu remedy concoction
Hot water
Freshly-squeezed lemon juice
Honey
Brandy (I know, I know, you don’t drink - just this one night)
Mix and down 3 drinks.
Cover yourself up while you sleep or do something vigorous to induce sweating!
You’ll wake up one happy flu-free son of a (shut your mouth).
30. magaidi
(42 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 1:27 am
I agree with most of what you have to say M, but truth be told, you’re just jealous coz we get hot running water and you have to fetch firewood and crouch next to the nyungu at 4:30 AM each morning..sema ukweli M ?
Before I get clobbered in here..that was a joke! I did that myself and my knees looked like I needed horse shoes after a few months .. OK
Before I continue let me just say this:
I do agree sending ka-50 every month to your old man doesn’t necessarily build the economy, nor does it benefit the greater good of wananchi but sincerely M, this belief in Altruism, for the greater good crap is what in my opinion ails African economies. There is little incentive for me to work in Kenya.
Question though..
You leave out Kenyans in Kenya..working for Multilaterals - akina BAT, Bayer, CocaCola, GM among others whose goods i’m sure you consume on a daily basis, whose presence in the region continue to criple local businesses. How is that bulding Kenya? I know they pay taxes, but aren’t they also contributing to the bottomline of these fat cats and continuing to lend support to businesses that continue to kill cottage industries that have a more direct effect on helping the mwananchi ergo nation building?
I agree sending cash to your family does little to help raise the GDP but in the process it creates employment and helps Kenyan owned businesses like PoaPay & MamaMikes which should pay taxes to the government to exist. Times are changing, we need to adapt. Walking into a brick and mortar office to earn a paycheck in Kenya, in my opinion is not the only way to contribute to the economy. Perhaps rather than point out what isn’t contributing to nation building, point out what does.
31. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:33 am
“Sending back money is not enough. Agreed. Many who return work in private firms, or if having the right connections, work for their parents or friends of parents. It’s incestuous. It’s elitist”.
Keguro and what is wrong with that? Aren’t all the companies you work for in the developed countries family companies?
32. Nick
(65 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:35 am
Flu Remedy: Give in and Give up. Amdit vocally that you’re it’s bitch and it will show u mercy
Topic of the Day: I am self centred and materialistic. Kudos to those who go out there and are making tonnes for themselves…let it be known that they are materialistic and yada yada yada but what i will not stand is them speaking all the way from there on how us back here should buiding our nation. I agree guys abroad should stop feeling PATRIOTIC all of a sudden and stop lamenting about things back home when they are chattin on some silver laptop on a 8×9 cosy bed.
Flying out doesn’t less of a kenyan,but it sure doesn’t you more of one either.
33. KM
(62 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 9:47 am
I think the fibre of this discussion has been lost. Kila mtu ako kila pahali. Mara its flu remedies, mara its sending Cash…
Please people, sending cash BUILDS THE NATION! Where is your econ?. Even making those fat cats of Multilaterals rich, BUILDS THE NATION. See, its not about how much is in your pocket…..it is simply about money circulating in the economy….
@ Shiroh, I think what Keguro is trying to say by ‘ It’s incestuous. It’s elitist” is that it is unfair because technically, in all fairness, the hardest/smartest working person should be the one getting the job opening. I stand corrected..
@ Nicky, LOL, ‘admit you are its bitch’….I am of the opinion that patriotism can only be nurtured in a give and take situation. The country has to make an effort however minimal…….Do not blame the people that found greener pastures elsewhere, blame the people that did not make it worthwhile for them to stay!
Weee M, I will never shut up….kwanza the shidas this blog has letead me, you don’t know. It is all your fault. Yes, it is!
34. M
(9 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 9:49 am
@Chrenyan and KenyanMusings
I feared my point would get lost somewhere there. Kindly note that I have not asked anyone to come back.
The point I am trying to make is this one
1) If you get an opportunity outside the country to fulfill any one of your dreams by all means take it
2) While you are wherever you are, you should not be ashamed of the decision that you have taken, and then out of a sense of guilt assuage your conscience by telling yourself (and others) that sending back money will be actively building the nation
3) There is only one way to build the nation - going back and using your skills there
4) No one is being asked to sacrifice anything. I have not asked anyone to come back. If you are happy where you are, you do your thing, do it well and do it with pride.
35. Muchoki
(5 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 10:34 am
Absolutely true!!!!
But M you will appreciate one thing, there are no jobs for the foreign trained Kenyans to do at Home!!! What would you say of all the graduates tarmacking (if there is tarmac where they are)? In as much as anybody would want to be patriotic, you cannot be patriotic on an empty stomach.
But I would encourage the foreign trained guys to come over. indeed the local employer favours foreign trained personnel. i have seen it especially for the jungu companies and some chut firms. there a lot to be done about brain drain. look at some old folks like Ngugi Wa Thiongo and Prof. Mazrui, despite conditions having “improved” in terms of political atmosphere, these chaps are still clinging to the western world with one foot at home and the other elsewhere. surely there must be something we, the locals are missing here.
Staying home is good only for the corrupt politician living on the sweat of the hard working Kenyan taxpayer taking home a fat package taxfree.These are the patriotic guys, so patriotism is relative.
36. Afrofeminista
(6 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 10:56 am
Coming home, sharing/using your skills, ideas, knowledge is the gift that keeps giving -it’s the ‘fishing rod’. While staying out there, sending money home, mistaking it for nation building, is the ‘fish ‘- which while keeping hunger at bay, is good for one meal only.
And that’s what this is all about. It’s not about staying there or here. It’s about what will build the nation. . .and yes of course, the flu.
37. KM
(62 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 12:24 pm
M, I get your point….that if you are working abroad, don’t think sending money is building the country.
Interesting thought, only that I still think that sending the money will build the country one way or another! It helps to put money back into poorer areas. And even though the money doesn’t go directly into the hands of the government which will gobble it up anyway, but which we assume may use it to effect infrastructural changes like building roads (NOT), promoting health (NOT) the money goes into the hands of the people which is good.
And it is good because, this indirectly builds earning power within the recipient country. If a sick relative can afford to go to hospital and go back to tilling the farm and selling the produce, the economy and the country benefits. The benefits will accrue to the economy eventually. You have to see the bigger picture. the foundations of an economy and a nation are built from such lowly beginnings.
But you are absolutely right, it starts with a working nation…but that working nation can only be as a result of “policy making, good governance…..political & investment climate” . So then? Can you give another solution since our country has gone to the dogs and those are non-existent?
And don’t get me started on entrepreneurship. It is a vicious cycle….horrible investment climate, a market that cannot support innovation, and one that lacks sufficient buying power to keep a business prosperous….what then?
Lets agree to disagree, that as long as the business/political/investment/labor/policy climate remains as it is, hakuna mtu anarudi!
You know where to start? Get rid of this blasted government, put some sensible people who are not hurtling towards the grave with old age or bursting at the seams from amassing public wealth, and everyone will be happy easy peasy..then you can ask people to come and work!
38. Prousette
(139 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
*skirting around the issue diligently*
The KR’s that are here what have they built in way of infrastructure, policies etc that can be counted?
This does not include those places that are 100km within the reach of the towns and cities. Few even think in terms of development and I am unfortunately one of them. I do not care if there are no roads and all so long as I can feed myself.
But then again I put my vote to good use and gave someone the mandate to worry over that.
We are subsisting too. The taxes remitted are put to the lovely use of sending the ladies and gentlemen whose relatives happen to occupy public offices, to shop in Paris and London.
The employment and capital creating opportunities exist mostly in the urban areas. The rural areas exist the same way Kenya does to those in the diaspora. The urbanites support family and relations by sending a token every so often of course in the process complaining about the high cost of living in the urban areas ,which I do not for a minute doubt.
So in total we are a nation of subsisting humans living hand to mouth, Monday to Tuesday at a time. Kindly burn those papers citing statistical evidence of growth because they mean absolutely nada to me, the price of milk and veggies just shot up which means I will have less money to even feed myself. Of course the drought is to blame just the same way it was to blame around 1997 then El Nino came bursting forth.
What really is the definition of building the country/growing the economy? Isn’t it uplifting the living standards one person/region at a time? Nothing grand really.
I like afrofeminista’s analogy of the fishing rod and fish. We need more fish so we can think of fishing but cannot do so if there are no hunger pangs to motivate this very viable activity.
@shiro you object to Nolle Prosequi. Ave Maria is OK?
39. Wangu
(27 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Needless to say, your piece is worth reading a thousand times over! I’ve heard about you - and for sure they weren’t lying.
On to matters at hand, I hope that KTs will have this food for thought along with their main courses every lunchtime and evening for the rest of 2006. Hopefully, by the time elections are over, most of them will be submitting their applications to Kenyan institutions.
40. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
@ Shiroh, I think what Keguro is trying to say by ‘ It’s incestuous. It’s elitist” is that it is unfair because technically, in all fairness, the hardest/smartest working person should be the one getting the job opening. I stand corrected..
I will correct you, you don’t have to be employed to build your nation. Create the jobs yourself.
How many guys in those countries are employed by the Government? Elitist i think is a word used by the non elitist because they cannot be there. Well if i play Golf with Kibaki and his cronies would i be complaining that he is elitist?
41. WGK
(12 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
Hey M,
A friend of mine reminded me (had totally escaped my mind) about the article in Drum EA (either Dec 05 or Jan 06) about the village eccentric. Interesting point of view about those who come back and are unable/unwilling to fit in.
42. Guessaurus
(122 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Having slept on this one (or not, seeing as I have a teeny infection on my foot from Mombasa shenanigans that is keeping me scratching foot all nite - sad, I know, i should be scratching head - but that is neither here nor there) I am inclined to fight this corner of us diasporing humans.
@Nicholas - go pull a tooth or two - that is nation building at its best (yes, I am fighting, shoot me)
Now, I may not be the country’s best builder - or even one at all, but I have to say that I do do my best - probably even more than you and you and you (and the dentist and the lawyer and the IT consultant too ) and also know quite a few people who do too.
Case in point: A member of Guess’s family is a student in the US (note; students have no money; so he is as broke as I was when a student) but part of his PhD programme involves his University providing and maintaining the Computers that are used in Egerton University - is that nation building?
He is involved in AIDS programs across sub-saharan Africa (including Kenya) and provision of infrastructure and drugs - is he building the nation or just flossing his influence? Since he is a broke student?
For my case, and that of lots of people I know is slightly different, but no less important. Yes, I may just send money home - but does putting a member of the community through college, so they can graduate and contribute in national development second class citizenship?
Does sponsoring someone to start a business which directly contributes to the nations GDP not nation building?
Does having a project that employs around 10 people, who would otherwise be jobless - which in turn helps them put kids in school or a roof over head help in nation building?
Yes, I could happily come back to Kenya and get a good job, but I can say for certain that half the things I get to do now I wouldnt be able to do. Yes, the strength of the pound is a contributory factor I might add - but while sitting in my air conditioned London apartment with a goldfish (does a cute beany-bear count?) doesnt in your opinion make me a nation builder - I know there are a few people who are literally ALIVE because of my being out of the country. There are people who have jobs, went to college, have a roof over their heads or are just plain old grateful that I took that flight out of JKIA - that is more than those fossils who have been serving the country long before I was born and have a ‘lifetime political card’ stamped on their asses have done for the country. Yes, I may not have a political bone in my body, I may not give a rats-ass about the political status of Kenya, I may not be able to do shite about the status of infrastructure or hospitals or education or health of the masses, but where it counts for me and mine, I do more than my share and see results.
Yes, call me selfish, self-centred, or whatever you may, but at the end of the day, point me to one single Kenyan human being who will not do it first for self and then look around before deciding to do it for country. Even the people who are supposedly representing the country are doing it for self, you are doing it for self, Nick is doing it for self - coming back to work in Kenya doesn’t mean that I am going to start doing it for country. I will be doing it for self still, just a lot less than I am doing right now, but it will still be for me.
I cant purport to be representing everyone, but I can say for a fact that you can build a nation from wherever you are, and just because you are in the room doesnt mean that you are contributing to the motion. You are just making up the numbers, just like him over there, and her on in the corner and your mother and brother and cousin and friend and neighbour. Dont beat us up, its a no win situation here dude.
43. Nick
(65 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
Guessy Boo Darling. What i don’t want you is making excuses as to why you are there doing what you are doing over there. True you can build your nation from way over there..but the point is you are still over there for some reason you cannot find over here. Truth be told you prefer being over there than over here(i love this form of arguing)
i have a cousin who argues in the same manner that she is doing her best from U.S…i just want to ask when u guys fly out do u suffer from a guilt trip of some sort-cause y’all argue the same way. Why can’t one just stand up and say “To hell with what you are all going am doing better over here and unless things change am staying here permanently” instead of pussyfooting and trying to argue how each is contributing towards Kenya’s growth…..
@M-oh yeah I’ve been struck by lightning, run over by a truck but nothing compares…its been 7 hours and 50 days since u took ur grip on me….nothing compares…nothing compares to flu (sinead o’connor)
44. Guessaurus
(122 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
Nicky sweetie, I am not making excuses, have never made any excuse and dont feel any sort of guilt when I fly out. Everyone makes their life and I have made my bed on this one.
Do not sit back in your bedroom (yes, I know) rubbing your hands in glee thinking you have one over me for being where you are - I have it on good authority that YOU, yes, oh YOU YOU YOU would do anything to ship out (or fly or peddle or something).
Q: What have you done for your country lately (sing with me :D
apart from making the numbers and throwing stones - (I can easily tweak your nipples from waaay over here you know?)
As M said, if there are better opportunities elsewhere, why shy from taking them in the name of patriotism. Just like you would take a better paying job and not feel the guilt of leaving your current one.
I do agree though that sitting out here belating the bad state of our country without doing anything about it is a bit lame, but everyone has an opinion - and rightly so - and so do you by the way. But, I may be the lame one sitting here in my cushy desk complaining, but what do you, as a person who is directly affected by this affairs, do to change them.
My bet (and there is an iPod attached to this bet) is zilch, zero, nada, fuck all. Tell me differently and collect your prize
Like most of us, you sit back and point fingers, throw stones at a distance and offer your 0.02cents.
45. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
LOL I knew it! WAR!!! Now that nimevaa Kevlar…
@Kenyan Musings
“The country has to make an effort however minimal” Pray tell, who makes up this country if not you and me and that KT?
I have one, and only one point. Ok maybe two. That “there are no jobs in Kenya” line is so tired. True people tarmack and all, lakini if all we want is to work for international companies, that cart the money OUT of our economy to the tune of gazillions of dollars anyway, heh heh it will be a cold day in hell by the time we industralize, or at least “develop”.
We must move beyond employment into entrepreneurship. Kila mtu wants to kunywa Starbucks coffee and eat Crispy Cremes lakini no one wants to come home and set up a company that markets Kenyan coffee in the same way. OH WAIT, a couple of Americans did that! JAVA, where M and ilk go and spend their hard earned bucks. There’s a certain story I remember reading about Ugandans who are marketing Ugandan coffee and selling it direct to UK stores. Where are the Kenyans to set things up?
When you look at the Forbes list, how many people in it got there by semaing “Yes boss” for years. NONE! Go figure!
The truth is, you (si wewe, huyo mwingine) flew out, got a MARVELLOUS education. SHOW US WHAT IT CAN DO!! Think outside the box. CREATE. INNOVATE. TRAILBLAZE.
And, true we have the most ignorant, backward, fossilized leaders. We need fresh blood!! But who’s going to replace them if we’re all abroad, in airconditioned apartments feeding our goldfish. Who’s going to change the way people vote, think.
No matter how you spin it, the country needs you. We have to change this country, and that’s certainly not going to happen if we’re all looking at the next person to do it.
OK, this post is EVIL!!! I only had one point to make. Why am I blogging. Shindwe M!!!
46. Jean
(18 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 6:28 pm
Perfect. Could not have put it better. Between M and Miss K the point is SO made!
BTW noticed the subtle changes to the blog. I’m particularly glad you made the home page wider
47. magaidi
(42 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
Oh no you didn’t!…Shotgun sasa Ms K.
M wewe ni wetu. Y’know you hit a chord when all gloves come off. G’s on a tantrum, Nick is arguing about the agrument about arguing, MsK is firing shots all over, KenyanMusings has all but declared war on you but we do all have a point. Problem is, even you peeps in Kenya are still working for someone else..why not be trailblazers? Why do the folks abroad have to be the ones to come home and be entrepreneurs? What about you? yeah you working for those same companies that are killing local industries? You TRAILBLAZE..don’t just talk the talk …tow the line you preach.
Oh and another thing I think is being lost in all this. We’re spending precious energy trying to justify our (personal) reasons for leaving while no one has questioned those, nor have you been vilified for doing so here. If MsK got a job at NASA, all that talk about being an entrepreneur in Kenya will be so lost, i’m sure her relas and their poultry will be at JKIA depositing kisses on her cheek and the poultry depositing guano all over the place.
It is pretty darn hard to actively participate in ALL phases of nation building from cozy confines abroad, I think that point has been established. However, recalling all expats abroad to come back and build their country..and them accepting to return is a long shot! (talk about trying to thread a needle with a sausage!)..let’s be realistic. What we need are ideas and not these back and forth -you do this, you do that- arguments.
Oops - time to feed the goldfish!
48. Nick
(65 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
Guess the Serial Tweaker..(btw do u know J.Lo has a personal Nipple Tweaker…how’s that for a job building a nation!)
NB ‘YOU’ in this case is not you Guess…but it will be addresed to u.
1.I don’t want you making any excuses at all-its survival of the fittest…it’s just that there is a mentality from peeps who fly out that creeps up with regards to sudden plastic patriotism…don’t get me started with dropping their English name and stickin to their african name…(How bout tha t as a topic for ur next blog M?)
2.I wasn’t speakin about you but you quote “But, I may be the lame one sitting here in my cushy desk complaining, but what do you, as a person who is directly affected by this affairs, do to change them.” that line is always unleashed by people who are abroad…never by a Kenyan/colleague/friend..but from guys outside lookin in-like they are in a superior place doin anything much. Why you complaning-finish up your work and get paid! Finish Bloggin!
Why are u concerned with my nation building or lack of? Why are you looking back when you damn well moved on?
-Tired of how Kenyans abroad keep advising/thinking of big grand ideas of how people back home can invest up and make money to finance bigger projects that would empower Kenyans as a whole…all talk but no action infact they just help in demoralising Kenyans back home
-Lets not start with complaints…Oh mara Corruption is so high…Oh the place is so dusty someone should do something about it…Oh the insecurity…Oh shut up!
Ur in a better place now move on don’t pretend to be looking back. Enough with the back-biting and trying to look like you are doing anything for your peeps back home except occassional pocket money/clad/pics..or even worse writing letters/invites for your family to fly out and come live with you.
3.I had said it before I’m materialistic/self centred and would bail in a heart beat but i’d never act like i have a moral ground over guys back home…i would not pretend that The reason I’m climbingup the corporate ladder in ‘NASA’ is for KENYANS! It’s every man for his own!
that’s my 2.5 cents..which i rarely have by the way!
Hey Guess our tally sure will go up in the groupie chart!
49. msaniixl
(77 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
@Nicko ..So Lardy boy its your view that if i have fam that is directly affect by all those ills you mentioned i just sit on it? lol..on some kinda like my SAY is worth more than your SAY
Isn’t better place a relative term here?
plastic patriotism? this is new… how many exist?
Great post @M…I’m thoroughly enjoying and learning form everyone
50. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:51 pm
LOL I’m back to defend my head groupie tag. Naona Nick and G are trying to overthrow me.
@Magaidi
Washa kuniingilia!!!
Me a job at NASA? To do what, sew sequins on their space suits? LOL!!
Enyewe you’ve made a valuable point. Kenyans in Kenya should be setting up businesses. Guess what buddy, we try. Think about your mathe (ok maybe your mathe is a kabirionaire!), think about mathe and all their tu-biasharas. You can’t even deny that, Kenyans try. Unfortunately we don’t always get it right. Kwanza I wish that Java idea had occurred to me! Haki ya nani!
That still doesn’t absolve nyinyi Kenyan Tourists. And you know, it doesn’t mean ati you come back and choke with the rest of us in the dust. [cough cough] I’m sure you have great ideas. Save some money, come set things up, employ a few UON graduates, go back to your goldfish and watch the shillings roll in. EASY!
And with those few remarks… Send me a picture of a goldfish tafadhali!
51. ciiku
(10 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
The truth hurts!
52. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Oh and M, before people start thinking mimi ni KT, tafadhali badirisha my flag of choice. Thank you.
PS/ Try a shag for that flu. Don’t ask, just try. Amazing!
53. acolyte
(177 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
At m that is a great post and I have to jump in with my $0.02.
First of all I do not have to be in Kenya to build Kenya.Look at all those people working for EPZ and large multi-nationals.Other then taxes these companies do as little as possible to build Kenya as the funnel their profits outside the country.I am in academia and the research that I do can be channeled towards developing Kenya or is it only sweat and not sparking neurons that count as development?
Also some of us did not run away, we merely went where we were wanted.If Kenyan companies and institutions will not recognise our contributions we will go to where we are valued be it states or europe.
Whether you like it or not Kenya would be different without remittances from abroad.Some of this money may be wasted but alot of it does what our government does not ie pay for healthcare,build schools and keep roofs over people’s heads.
Also I do concur with Guess who told Nick something to the tune of you can’t blame us for talking about people back home who do little to allieviate the state of affairs they find themselves in. If there is one things folks back home knew how to do is to talk and give cures to the situation that Kenya finds itself in but do little in terms of action.So we may talk because we are far and can do little on the ground but you who are on the ground what is your excuse? Kenyans take little initiative when it comes to entrepreneurship and would rather jump on someone else’s ingeneuity ie exhibition craze.
Also when we are far away and try to give solutions and send cash we are told that we have little to offer and have run away but on the other hand when we turn our backs we are accused of being traitors.Which way would you rather have it?
Also Keguro talks abouts working in the Public sector, what I have to say is that I was in Kenya more recently then you, so stop looking at things through rose colored glasses.First of all the public sector is experiencing down-sizing (thanks to IMF et al),also their is rampant ism when it comes to hiring (take your choice cronyism,nepotism etc so since I am not from the hills of Mt Kenya I think that makes things rather hard from me),also Kenyan bureacracy is well known for frittering talent (me wasting away in a government office is indeed a great show of patriotism!)
Anyway this is an issue that generates more questions then answers so I guess I will keep reading the comments.
54. Savco
(1 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Good post M.
I also don’t blame ppl for looking for greener pastures but I blame ourselves for not putting mechanisms to lure these professionals back.
Fine let them work in the West gain skills, contacts and experience but they are gonna have to retire, right? Few Kenyans want to retire in the West. That’s when u lure them back with incentives and put their skills to use the same way China, India and Singapore r doing. It’s a win-win situation.
These pple have had exposure and understand global trends - there4 they can be used to strategically position the country to take advantage of emerging and future global trends. I believe is their greatest asset as we need to become world class in everything we do (just as Kenya Airways is doing). Of course then pple will complain about the Kenyan diaspora being favoured but u can’t please everyone and strategies can be devised to mitigate this.
On remittances I think there’s a better way. Instead of being used on subsistence they should be channelled to achieve growth thru mechanisms such as Mutual Funds. These should be made availabe to the Kenyan Diaspora and they should be educated on the relevant concepts.
These Mutual Funds could offer the govt ways of raising capital thru govt papers other than domestic borrowing that crowds out local wananchi/businesses(the 90s) or “foriegn aid” (which r actually loans not aid!) and give the donors disproportionate leverage that they r only too keen to exploit for their own interests.
They could also be invested in infrastructure development as most of our infrastructure could be technically feasible but economically unviable due to skewed financing from IMF/World Bank etc. Of course corruption needs to be done way with so as not dampen the KTs investor confidence and unnecessarily increase the risk premium.
These Mutual Funds could also be invested in the stock exchange giving local companies relatively cheap capital for expansion so as to stave off or match foreign competition (SA), chutis with their informal 0% interest loans from family members all over the world etc.
All in all if the KTs economic potential is properly tapped it could enable innovative solutions to develop and create employment, growth etc. More importantly, it could improve national security by decreasing reliance on foreign aid and thereby reducing foreign leverage.
Thank u.
55. EN
(2 Comments) | January 17th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
As a KT, I have to speak in defence of the president.
You’re whole argument is about building Kenya. The president is part of the London School od Economics alumni yet he hardy gets any props for the hard work it is obvious he does. Unfortunately, not the whole govt is as hardworking as he is.
On day 15 of the aforementioned KT holiday, there was a news article with MPs from famine-stricken regions accusing ‘the government’ of not reacting to the drought quickly enough. Aren’t they part of the government??
What appears, to me anyway, as well architected plan for economic development by the president seems to have been decelerated by politiking, constitution blah-blah and a cabinet (and parliament) that seems to be disappointed that they’re not eating as much as the previous regime. Hopefully in time that mentality will be rooted out. In the meantime, the blame should land squarely on those responsible: after three years in office, Hon. Raila Odinga did not do much for roads, surely he should take some of the blame for the stagnation of our infrastructure.
On the other hand, former transport minister Hon. Michuki lead to a drastic reduction in fatalities on Kenyan roads! Some orthopaedic units around Nairobi had to close for lack of work! You won’t see him being commended on the media.
One of the things that pissed me off (kedo day 12) is seeing people complaining about alcoblow interfering with their weekend activities. How could something that saves lives in this way be bad? Maybe Kenyans should borrow the habit of ‘designated drivers’ that is practiced in other countries and drink responsibly!! Or, start to use taxis and assist in job promotion, instead of making the govt. to be a bad guy for actually giving a hoot about Kenyan lives.
I can’t speak on behalf of the people in comfy New York flats since I haven’t finished my studies but I would love to channel whatever I’ve learnt into ‘building my country’. But the attacks on Kibaki are uncalled for.
56. fantasio
(5 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:01 am
M, you really are “nec pluribus impar” !
Cheers
57. Farmgal
(99 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:36 am
lakini honestly how can one go back to build the nation when there is bila jobs for the millions of the jobless. I wil say let those who want to build it from states etc do so.
I mean look at the educated jobless people in kenya, some have become bank robbers and hit men. And they didnt choose their path that leads to the grave for the robbed or the robber.
I love Uk but only during summer. come winter I miss kenya like heaven!
I know your arent asking people to go back home. and am sure you’re almost pulling out you hair ..sorry curly kit (blame nick)when people conclude that thats what you’re asking.
58. CityBoi
(2 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 3:14 am
Ur right. it takes work to build the country. But no one will run back to a sinking ship jus because of patriotism. What us KT’s need are signs that the captain and crew have realized there are holes on the boat and are taking steps towards fixing it.
U have missed out in your analysis those kenyans who, though they remain, do NOTHING towards repairing Kenya. By this i mean those who will still bribe officers, still accept bribes and so forth. What we need is a monumental shift in our thinking. And it needs to be felt throughout the country. In the media, in the government, everywhere. We need smarter, younger people in government, but unless we have that monumental shift in thinking, it’ll never happen.
How can a first-class 26 year old graduate, having worked abroad, be inspired to come back with the intention of helping bring about change when everyone in Kenya thinks only aged people can help them!!?? What we need is more KR’s like you, M, to wake everyone the hell up!!! Realize that the situation you are in is not working and get those people out of government. Countries are built on policy. Policy is only as good as the policy-makers.
Unfortunately we are more interested in the tribes of our policy-makers than their qualifications!! If KT’s knew they could realize their full-potentials in Kenya, trust me, they would RUSH back. And KR’s would not leave. There’s a reason things in Kenya are the way they are in terms of skills shortage. Let’s get policy-makers in who can realize this reason and can enact policy to try and fix it.
59. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 8:34 am
M you opened a pandoras box, and the more i read the comments the more i realize people go to school to get jobs. The guys out there are even lucky they can work while in school and can save up; for us guys here getting unpaid internship is a miracle but we don’t give up. At the end of the day i owe my country one at least for funding my education.
In international law, if a person is declared an alien, then the only country that can be forced to accept him back is his country of birth. I think Go read, come back build the nation should be the new slogan. Corruption and whatever else Kenya is accused of should not be your excuse for not coming back.
Think of it this way people worked hard to build the developing countries..so why should you bask in their glory? Don’t even start giving reasons. Matiba my constituent mate is terminally ill but him and others had to suffer to save us from dictatorialism and one partyism..the more we talk the more we do nothing.
60. KM
(62 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 8:37 am
Okay Class, Time out. Teacher back in class!
Guess and Nicky, stop with the fighting already…go to the corner and squat!
That Nicky can be quite a trouble maker, so Nicky hold your ears as well.
Its just funny how people have jokes amidst all this. LOL at curly kit. Someone had to bring it up.
@ Nicky…You are demented. LOL…don’t even get me started with the name dropping….
@ Ms K, LOL @ sewing sequins.
Swee, you make starting a business seem like such a piece of cake. All over again, it ties back to the same thing….there are no measures in place to lure entrepreneurs to do it. From setting up the business to finding a market to incentives to keep them going….
Kwanza, I am a javaholic but if you hear the story/rumor of how Java started…….he! nione kando! Entrepreneurs nothing!
Let’s all arrange the sequence of thoughts here and find the dream that M had when he blogged this. (M, if I lose the dream, please do correct me) What is the use of such a beautiful discussion/fight if WE CANNOT COME UP WITH A SOLUTION???
1. There is need for change, as in real, political first, social, economic, infrastructural, etc not for sending people cash, although we agree that IT HELPS! (don’t you start or I will have you all take 5 laps around the playground yelling ‘milk’)
2. A pretty chunk of the people that can make tangible change are in the Diaspora, they are doing their best, and they CARE about this country, if not, they will begin to.
Those that are here are also trying, if not they will start to henceforth. If you do not care about this country, please leave, we have nothing to offer.
3. There are no/limited opportunities to get KT’s to come back OR make TANGIBLE CHANGE from where they are.
Now, get in groups and device a way forward from here, and no more about justifying circumstances, gold fish, plastic patriotism, NASA, Sequins, curly kit…..In Fact, no one should talk about their own situation!
At the end of this lesson, we will need solutions. Ideas, real ones on HOW EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION or any other (de)limitations CAN MAKE TANGIBLE CHANGE necessary to MOVE THE COUNTRY FORWARD!
Get working!
And Nick and Guess go into the same group!
@M. Please go bring a nice long cane for your rear for not cleaning up your mess
61. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 8:41 am
Think of it this way people worked hard to build the developing countries..so why should you bask in their glory?
Ooh i meant developed countries.
Nick i can see you are trying to catch up with me. Work Harder
62. Nick
(65 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 10:32 am
@msanii:ur still on the outside looking in…unleashing ideas you were not unleashing when u were here
@Acolyte:thats my point people here and over there just know how to talk.Kenyans have the mentality of politicising everything…those abroad criticise guys here and vice versa…and that is just idle talk-in the words of Rodney King to the cops and batons and hidden camera and boots “CANT WE ALL JUST GE ALONG!!
I’m the type that wont give a crap that ‘u’ are out there making a life for urself,im even happy for u…but i draw the line when Guess asks me what have i done for kenya lately(whether in tyrese’s or janet jackson) version
If am not asking you that, where do you get off askin- when u are all the way there!
63. Wangu
(27 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 11:56 am
Much as my saying it may irk you, I think you should run for presidency.
64. KM
(62 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG! Booohooo!
Some of us cannot stand violence of whatever kind (physical, verbal, emotional, virtual, playful, serious……)
M, do something!
65. KM
(62 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
Ni Nicky na Guess wanataka kupigana.
Fight! fight!…as soon as we can find Guess
66. Farmgal
(99 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
how can we come back and creat jobs while even the people in kenya can’t! (or have tried and failed) I mean what is it that we can do that you guys at home cant do. Si sisi wote (maybe not all of us) tuko na degrees in whatever.
67. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Nick serial blog killer; be worried Guess. I still remember how you bullied him but the war is getting a bit hot.
At least i can say with conviction that Nick has a clinic and employs someone at least. With time 20 of his classmates will.
At least most of my classmates still around here will open their law kiosks when it is time.And in that way employ more.
The least you can do is invest in Kenya; real estate,shares, just make sure you spend here.
68. Nakeel
(75 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
M this just sums what people have been waiting to be reminded as people pretend they dont know about the issue anymore.
Am with Wangu run for Presidency and carry Obasanjo’s heart.. ((we Kanu if u dont lead the team to win you are not going to play abroad for any club with your teammates.. but change your line to We Farmgal if u dont come home and start a company with Guess starting a dispensary and make Nick as the head of dental department never look at Kenya))
69. Keguro
(33 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
Shiroh says she owes her country for funding her education. I agree.
I owe my family for funding mine. Not my country, my family. When I make money, it will go to my family first.
When I said people who return work in private firms that belong to their families or friends of their families, I simply took the line that economic privilege reproduces itself. We have to be practical. Does further entrenching the middle or upper-middle classes “build the country?” I’m not an economist. I can’t answer this question.
When we say “build the country,” what do we mean? Do we follow some strange reagonomics that claims benefits will “flow down” when we “return” and drink ourselves silly at Pavement?
On some level, this strange business of “building the country” requires skills that we have not yet acquired: how do we ensure a solid foundation while fixing leaks in the roof and replacing windows? I’m not being defeatist.
Let’s also not abstract political work. Policies develop from very local initiatives: from one family or one village or one small location. They emerge from need and circumstance. They don’t always get press until some time later. (Ory, in her journalism series, is looking at how the press works, or doesn’t.) Policies develop from pressure being applied to politicians: for this, we need politicians who listen and take responsibility. We actually need them to be in their offices, to have mailing and email addresses, to meet and listen to their constituents. Some do. Many don’t. I’m not passing the buck. I am saying we need to think in structural terms.
We focus a lot on those who “have left.” I am one of 4 siblings. I am the only one out of the country. Many have remained and continue to remain. There’s no disconnect between those who leave and those who remain. Some might sit in comfy New York apartments (the very few who make too much money) and not pay attention to what happens. Many of us pore over local papers, call, text, email, write letters to family. We do things that our parents’ generation did. We join in self-help family funds, donating small amounts each month or two months or three months. We join our families in setting goals. We try to realize them.
Only a certain arrogance would convince diasporic Kenyans that they can put pressure on the government or restructure the economy in ways that our families at home cannot. This would be an instance of hubris.
And, I ask again, why presume that diasporic Kenyans have vast resources, enough to start companies and shape policy? Who needs this convenient fiction? As though we do not pay rent and bills and, for those who have them here, try to educate siblings and children.
Few of us can afford to sit in New York apartments and look at our goldfish. Some might. I’d hazard to say not most. Sending back $50 a month may not sound like much. For some it’s not. For others it’s a good percentage of income.
When I left I was told: go, get as much education as you can, get as much experience as you can. When you come back, be someone who can do something.
It took my parents a good 15 years to save enough to open their own little business. It will not take me 3 months or two years. My degrees will not substitute for the 5 years experience all the ads in Kenya ask for. And, I ask again, which university will employ me?
Like it or not, Kenya is part of a global economy: global economies seduce, lure, and entice workers. Nostalgia might feed my writing. It does nothing for my bank balance.
70. Wangu
(27 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 5:26 pm
Hmm …
I think we all agree on a few things:
a) Patriotism won’t put food on our tables
b) Building Kenya depends on policy
c) Money talks
Methinks the passion that each voice has portrayed is enough, at the very least, to spark change.
What we must all remember is that Big things very often start small, and, as the Swahili gurus put it, Fimbo ya mbali haiui nyoka (A stick won’t kill a snake if it’s not at hand).
Now, if M will run for office (or advisor’s office), and the KTs send money with specific instructions on spending (of course geared towards capital generation), we will be on course to bring our diasporaing friends back …
Ama aje?
71. Chrenyan
(137 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
M running for President is laughable! And that has nothing to do with M. Can you imagine, what are his chances? Following that thought, how many hundreds of thousands of people could make a better President/Cabinet/MP’s than the ones we have?
And this is why KT’s should stay where they are, and do what they can. Come back when M is President.
72. acolyte
(177 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 6:27 pm
Ah and the debate gets more and more interesting.First of all I would like to clarify one thing that Keguro kinda touched on.Very very very few Kenyans can afford to live in New York (it’s expensive for Americans too;starting price for a good apt is $1million) but I know that you were using NY as an example.KR should know that we KT out here rarely have life as easy as people back home think we do.Life here is expensive and unless you have your papers in order you arent going to get a cushy job that lets you lounge in an apartment.Many Kenyans work 18 hour days so the fact that they can scrimp for something to send home is dedication to Kenya enough as it is when they could just put their noses to the grindstone and forget about Kenya while chasing the American dream.
@ Nick
Yes I agree with you that Kenyans have a knack of politicising every single thing ie who will be the chairman of the estate committee!
As for you being asked what you have done for Kenya lately, we out here are labelled as doing nothing but you may have heard the saying, “don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house”
73. arab
(11 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 6:31 pm
Me i think if one makes mega bucks and doesn’t mind being 2nd class citizen and is at peace with their conscience while designing prototypes like waithera’s for the g7 countries (or others) while brothers are pushing mkokoteni back home, ah, is ok!-hio ni yao na wachana nao!! i’d understand when they’re miffed to imagine being interred at dusty patchy langata.
but me am peevish when these kind condescendingly rant on about how things are a mess at home as if we cant see for ourselves and in the process not offer probable soln. its as though on flying out, they changed place of birth in their kitambulisho and in their heads too. yaani kweli they cant remember seeing walaka ferrying water with an ass from the river? hai! thought memories were made of these mundane daily activities
but again, me i think different. though i love money, to do the real good gives me a better high,a legal high that is!. i’d get the sweetest kick repairing a bridge at wakor in pokot and enable relief food get to nginyang’ and receive Sh. x rather than design a ninth wonder-a bridge connecting eiffel tower and statue o liberty, say-and gloat as the g7 folks marvel at my miro genius and pay me Sh. 100x.
@M, your blog scintillatingly rocks. had to peer out of the woodworks
74. Ms K
(126 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Heh heh I BACK!!! Head groupie in the house!!!
@Farmgal
“how can we come back and creat jobs while even the people in kenya cant! (or have tried and failed)”
Not everyone fails. If you paid attention you’d see that there are many who have made a go of it and have succeeded.
For example, you opened a store, right? I’m sure you have fabulous clothes. What makes you think me and KenyanMusings wouldn’t spend all our hardearned mbesha at your store? Did you even consider it.
@KenyanMusings
Do tell the Java story. I’m just miffed that a bunch of Americans had to come and tell us that our coffee is fabulous. It just makes us look like thenges.
@Keguro
I’m willing to bet good money that you would find a job chap chap. You’re like, a genius! Who wouldn’t want to have you? I’ll even put my money where my mouth is. Twende kazi!
@M
Aki this post rocks. Do you know you probably don’t have to blog for a month. This could go on forever!!!
75. CityBoi
(2 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
M, i think u’ve hit on a very explosive subject. I agree with you that leaving to go work in another country for better pay under better conditions does not mean ur not patriotic. But coming back to work for crumbs in a dilapidated country does not a patriot make. Kenya needs to do what it takes to attract talent back. Just recognizing the problem won’t overcome it. Talent will only be attracted back if Kenya looks attractive. Thats the reality of the matter.
76. Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kenya: Returning home
(No Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
[...] The topic of returning home is currently popular in the African blogosphere. Here ThinkersRoom writes an imaginery two week visit by a Kenyan to her/his homeland then goes on to discuss how things would change for the better if Kenyans began returning home and contributing to the building of the country” That the post got 73 comments shows how important this issue is to Kenyans and Africans in general. [...]
77. I
(120 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
M.. Glad you are feeling better..
I couldn’t agree with you more on the subject.
We all need to recognize that sending money to Kenya is not building Kenya, that is merely supporting your family.
building a nation requires hands on work and available brains to be used when and if necessary not sending your cucu 20 bucks for a pair of shoes and thinking that the shilling will be stronger against all the other currencies because your cucu has a pair of shoes! come’on people…
Our generation is failing Kenya and unless we do something about it.. well.. … see Kibaki….
and M, next time one of those KT’s attempts to have a conversation with you about the economy of Kenya, you have my permission to smack the dollars out of them and buy rounds at the bar for everyone.. there is no way someone would come from Kenya to the US and talk to me about US economy because i live here, and i see it everyday.. those fools (KT’’s) are no exception they don’t live in Kenya, unless they consider being there for 14days out of 10yrs living there, in which case, i see no future for Kenya.
78. EN
(2 Comments) | January 18th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
The president is very much an issue as what you are calling for is Kenyan foreign graduates to return home to ‘build the country’. As LSE alumni, His excellency fits the bill.
You make very negative associations to him. If your heart is in the right place with regards to your plea for graduates to return home to build the country, why all the negativity regarding the governance of an individual who has done just that! What criticisms do you have in reserve for those of us who will follow in his nyayos? And whats with all the reference to fossils. Fresh blood is good but experience is important too. I’ll no doubt have much to learn under the mentorship of experienced Kenyans before my imported degree can uplift our GDP.
Secondly, his hard work isnt hidden. Refer to your local daily for details: http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?premiumid=0&category_id=1&newsid=65166
And for the record, if I was to go by what I read in the economist, newsweek, guardian, BBC online about Kenya, I would think we were on the verge of a civil war as opposed to extolling the emerging security in the CBD.
79. Stunuh
(4 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 12:51 am
This is going to come back and bit me in the butt…. to hell with it. You’re absolutely right there is nothing wrong with the raisins in the sun shooting for the stars in whatever planets they may occupy. However, what stopped the KT’s and the KR’s from forming companies, industries, dot coms, cash cows etc. Rome wasn’t built in one day and I think quite a few romans and non romans help build it.
But on the other hand, Kenya just received negative publicity (with no help from the Kenya Airways CEO) for marked tribalism, Option A get a job where your credentials count, or option B, get a job where your tribe counts, woe be to you should the MD’s tribe change.
80. Prousette
(139 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 11:00 am
In summary so far
- Send the money (dollars, pounds liras) if you can, it counts, whatever you do not matter how small COUNTS
- Stop the tired lines explaining why you cannot come back ati there are no jobs, the city is dusty…blah.
- You are to blame for the state the country is in no matter where you are geographically.
-Those statistics about economic development are doctored
-BBC & CNN are not a reliable source of info on what is going on. FYI we are not on the verge of a civil war.
-Waithera and Onyango could come back to head our own NSIS instead of building NASA
- It is not advisable to buy goldfish for your apartment in NY and look at it while thinking about kenya
81. Prousette
(139 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 11:05 am
*tiny weeny question*
Does being in Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda count as being in the diaspora? Ama that is just going visiting kwa neighbour?
82. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Definitions
1 Kenya-African country which neighbours Uganda and Tanzania
2. Kenyan- A person who is born in Kenya, acquires citizenship by naturalization et cetera
So when you say that Kenya needs to attract its own; what do yah exactly mean?
Who do you think should attract you and why?
We choose leaders; where are you to be chosen or to choose?
83. I
(120 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
You know M it just occured to me…
a woman needs to run for President in Kenya during next elections.. seeing as men have held the chair since Kenya’s independence and the country has gone from bad to worse,
i think its time we gave a chance to a different species…
don’t y’all think?
84. Memoire
(14 Comments) | January 19th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Yani I have missed the lighting of the stove, the cooking of the food and the heat na sasa the chakula is cold!! Haiya.
I commend the issues raised, and although I have been a fervent proponent of Kenyans either going back to start business or investing in shares (i.e. helping to create and maintain Kenyans in employment) I find myself feeling kidogo defensive as one in the Diaspora.
The point that M raised - and several others - about how returnees shouldn’t complain about the lack of jobs (is unemployment in Kenya not 40-50% of the adult population?) - is very important. Returnees, with their sterling, euros, dollars, have more capital. Personally, it is only because of being abroad that I can accumulate enough capital to start a business. Had I never left, it would be kitu 20 years before I could start a biashara. Okey, point taken and I agree fully.
However, you talk about Java as a foreign company - why do people go there, instead of Kenyan-owned coffee houses? People run for Calvin Klein and sijui nini, whilst Wonder Wear selling Kenyan clothes goes into liquidation. People scoff in Nandos, whilst Jeevanjee fish & chips lays off workers. Uchumi and Nakumart are stuffed with foreign produce - hata chewing gum na Fairy liquid wata import, leaving akina Panga soap na Unga Foods tremble near bankruptcy. People grab everything and anything labelled “made in [ulaya]. Same thing for music, films, TV progs, basically any commodity you can imagine. Tafadhali tell me how this encourages Kenyan entrepreneur to return with their life savings and start a business.
Mr. John Smith arrives with his khaki safari gear, to set up a business in Nairobi. He is welcomed and fast-tracked as a “foreign investor”. Sisi wananchi encounter bureacracy, ageism, multiple -isms, as if we are trying to fly to the moon.
There is a worshiping of FOREIGN things in Kenya- since Independence hadi leo. I thus find the emphasis on Kenyans in the diaspora returning - as a big solution - to be uncomfortable. Yet again, considering the many unemployed Kenyan graduates in Kenya, the out of work CEOs, etc (hence across the age span), despite the lack of support for Kenyan industry, the solution for Kenya’s economic problems is not with Kenyans in the Diaspora. I disagree with the viewing degrees/experience in the West as better or more valuable.
…and sijawai kusikia any Kenyan abroad bragging ati they are building the economy by sending money.
Another thing … many Kenyans abroad who have “made it” resent the fact that it was only when they were recognised in their fields in the West that Kenyan employers/society turned around and recognised them. I’d imagine Ngugi wa Thiongo is a case in point. Dude was not only jailed but barred from gaining employment in any university. Now that he’s worn awards and been celebrated in the US/Europe, that’s when many of those who ignored/ rejected him, are saying to him ati “come home”.
85. Wangu
(27 Comments) | January 20th, 2006 at 12:13 pm
@ Memoire
I agree with the points you raised, but I beg to differ on a few points … much as we should build Kenya, we must build it with quality, which is what a lot of Kenyan industries lack at the moment.
Picture Uchumi, for example - the supermarket chain did well for a VERY LONG TIME, despite the fact that Nakumatt was making its name, and a good one at that. Then what happened? Their stocking and other things such as keeping items on their shelves dust-free (in some branches) did a nose-dive. I am sure you agree with me that there are numerous examples in every branch of industry that we can mention. However, there are also some indigenous companies that have blossomed, despite being Kenyan, which I believe makes my point a valid one.
Another thing … granted … there is a lot of red-tape in Kenya, but we must agree that a lot of good has been done since 2000 - which gives us reason to be optimistic. The media industry, I think, is a clear indicator of improved policy on establishment of institutions. There have been good radio stations and bad ones … and everyone agrees on that.
I don’t intend to digress, so enough with that.
Kenya’s future is optimistic … so let’s not dwell on the past. Come up with a good idea, talk to people you think can help, take a shot at your idea, and EMPLOY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL MAKE YOUR IDEA WORK.
Your turn
86. Elle
(17 Comments) | January 20th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
I, woman ar not a different species…they are the superior of the species.
M, now you know the meaning of ‘the grateful dead’. least they were feeling better than you did!
blog - one of your best so far. Brilliant!
building Kenya has to start with patriotism from that place inside.
What makes you want to be home…always. Not just when things are good.
I believe if you wanted to nothing could take you away from building your country. What about all the idiots who wax eloquent on ‘ back in the States…’
I say its just PAIN DRAIN.
87. Lillian
(2 Comments) | January 20th, 2006 at 5:07 pm
I couldn’t articulate it better - btw this is my first time commenting; very insightful. I live in the US but I get tired of people of quoting statistics of how much they’re running the Kenyan economy.
88. acolyte
(177 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 1:08 am
I think that all these comments can be taken,edited and turned into a part two post.What do you think M et al?
89. sikoture
(2 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 1:18 am
Interesting point of view. I do like the way you brought this out. However there are some considerations to be taken into account:
1. The Wangui, Onyango, Kilimo etc have been accustomed to this way of living for the past 5 - 10 years, it would be rather hard for them to try and adjust their “way of living” just for the sake of coming back and building the country. Though these are the same conditions that they were used to living before, making the adjustment really takes a strong will power.
2. Take current situation, government, econimics, etc when you read “our” Kenyan news, what kind of general feeling do you get? Lets say you’ve been away for 5, 10 years. I can attest to this fact, all you get is this wave of negative feelings that you feel better off staying where you are than come back, after all the challenges that you face are far more greater than those faced by the folks at home.
I am not trying to discredit your contributions though, I think its a wonderful wonderful food for thought that should be taken into account by all our people in the diaspora.
90. chepkemboi
(14 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 2:47 am
Hi M, please check out standard commentary by Wallace Kantai
91. chepkemboi
(14 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 2:48 am
http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news_s.php?articleid=35328, okay, here is the link
92. Keguro
(33 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 am
Cited in Standard! I feel proud.
Wallace Kantai, Lenana School, Class of ‘93
“A fellow named Keguro,” Lenana School, Class of ‘93
Okay, back to serious comments
93. KT#1
(3 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 am
Well written article; not only very well said, but needed to be said. Kenyamusings, I agree with you completely! As a KT#1, I do not condone any Kenya bashings by anyone who is not making a ‘difference’ or helping the situation in any way. It’s completely useless. Even having studied overseas since high school, I remain very Kenyan in who I am and choose to be. I will always be a foreigner everywhere but in Kenya. Kenyans who’ve decided to settle in the diaspora are in denial about that basic fact. Even in the ‘land of the free’, we’ll never be ‘free’. I am an entrepreneur making American dollars for Kenyan good. This does not entail sending money to ‘my family’; it means creating jobs for Kenyans here and in Kenya as well as finding markets for Kenyan goods/services overseas. As we continue to succeed and stabilize, I plan to move back to Kenya shortly to participate in nation building - which, I believe, cannot be done remotely.
We are all looking for solutions. And as it has been noted by several others, entrepreneurship (private sector) is what will save Kenya. Not the government and its politicians. Talk is just that, TALK - so lets leave it to the experts, our ‘beloved’ politicians. Any work that needs to be done lies in the hands of the citizens - whether we like it or not. All Kenyans (in the diaspora and otherwise) should and MUST participate in developing the country. Kenya has absolutely no excuse for being a ‘Third World’ nation. We should not be starving. Kenya has the most beautiful, brightest, most enterprising and visionary people on the planet. I am yet to meet a Kenyan who is not in love with Kenya and would move back in a heartbeat should circumstances change for the better. Top 3 on all our lists is Security, Infrastructure and Healthcare. But to each their own and to those of us who would do it differently, know that there are leaders and followers. Let each one take their respective places.
94. kimland
(2 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 am
Why does it matter so much more that a person leaves Kenya for work in South Africa than that another leaves his village for district across the next, and takes as long to turn back as the one who went to South Africa? Does the mere fact that the one who moves two districts over did not leave the country give him, or her, a moral ground to judge the one in South Africa?
People do not send money home with the sole purpose to build Kenya. They send money to finance projects that they value, including providing for kin. It just happens that many of those projects will be in Kenya, where the individuals have fundamental social attachments and a sense of belongingness or ownership. That leads to my punch line: Kenya grows from what Kenyans do, not because Kenyans are so focused at building Kenya, but because as they build what matters to them, much of which is in Kenya, Kenya invariably grows. No matter what you say here, you do not make your decisions giving any consideration of how those decisions build Kenya. How individuals contribute in building Kenya once they are in foreign lands is influenced most by international policies and Kenya’s domestic policies because then the interplay of those policies factor in the decision-making process. So cut that argument that people cannot build Kenya living in New York apartments (I hope you meant to exaggerate the comfort in which Kenyans leave abroad). For a fact the most profound projects in Kenya are the result of resources sent from foreign institutions with strings attached. This fact tears to the ground your argument that money sent home on voluntary will, with no repayment contracts, can not count as building Kenya.
Another thought, it would be prudent to note that a great number of individuals living abroad are people that were destined for waste in Kenya in the first place, i.e. people who, in spite of obtaining university degrees and other sophisticated training, were on the streets daily for years trying their lack in the offices. For many of them that lack came in the form of an opportunity outside Kenya. For such people, with all due respect, it is not only the dime they send home that counts as input in building Kenya, but their mere personal reclamation into valuable members of society rather than the destitute hoard that a disorderly economic system was bound to make them also is! For every Waithera out somewhere, there are a number of others that would have been vagabonds if they never found their places abroad.
How unpatriotic do you consider the foreign nationals you see in Kenya? As long as you are open to the idea that man has legs and mind so as not to be sedentary, you must be open-minded enough to remove all geographical bounds from the concept that defines the state of being true Kenyan, or even a Kenyan patriot. If the moon becomes habitable there will be individuals willing to pack and go, and I doubt their love for earth has anything to do with that willingness.
95. stonecold
(1 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Would not claim to be one of the KT’s you refer to. I love the motherland , the only thing that bothers me is everytime we take a step forward in the great race to a higher civilisation as a nation we seem to go two back.
It stinks of a sisyphianism to come back home and build the nation with our hard earned intellectual capital ,which would not receive adequate compensation. My point is that patriotism or no , monies sent back home to allow for sustenance and or capital creation provide which provide a necessary balance between personal enhancement and national development.
96. KT#1
(3 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 9:00 pm
With all due respect to the opinions expressed, the bottom line is that we all have a duty to do what we can to better ourselves (spiritually, mentally and physically), our families and our communities. To do less than that, defeats our purpose on earth. There is nothing to defend, only work to be done. Don’t just talk about it, BE about it.
97. Mutumia
(56 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 9:05 pm
Ngai baba! Look what you started M!
See M. I think that by having a reductionist approach to the issue where it becomes a dichotomous either/ or scenario, then we risk not gitching what is actually a more complex and nuanced situation as “KT-ing” and “nation building” are not mutually exclusive.
That said, I concur with the points that you made about not using the excuse of ‘not enough jobs’ to justify not coming back to Kenya. I mean, no-one owes me anything. If I want to work in IT managed zero-grazing for iPod listening zebus (or just start a battery factory and export AA bats to Uganda), I’ll just have to do it the old fashioned way and roll up my sleeves and deal with KPLC, thika Municipal Council and ‘dem - just like everyone else.
I also disagree with the notion that even if my primary residence is not Kenya, I know zilch and should not comment (and match this with action on a diaspora-level!) on the politics of Kenya- such as they are. ‘Cause by using that logic of :
IF not in the sitation, THEN you don’t know AND you aren’t qualified to make an informed analysis on the sitation
This would mean that 76% of Kenyans cannot comment on the Marsabit massacre; Mtongwe ferry disaster and [insert localised event that you witnessed first hand].
That said, it’s also true that while it’s easy to pontificate on “how things should be” it’s harder to act on “this is how I’m gonna make things be”.
And that is a point well taken by this KT.
98. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 22nd, 2006 at 11:44 pm
Okay, I’ve scratched my head to the point of baldness because this is an almost unanswerable question. If I agree with you M, I shoot myself in the foot. If I don’t then I hear myself being defensive. If I do both, then I’m sitting on the fence. There’s no way out.
Okay, cards on the table:
1. Yes, I suppose I am “diasporic” although for some reason it was really startling to think of myself in this way
2. Yes, I have a very high level of education and specific skill set
3. Yes, I earn a respectable income
BUT
1. I have to agree with Keguro–that KT you mentioned doesn’t sound familiar to me. This is not what I do when I come home. I try to work–and it is very difficult. I have vast networks of friends and associates who are Kenyan, live at home or abroad, and all of us are trying our best, in our considered ways, to work for positive change. So I humbly beg to differ–I may not be building the country (but what does that mean?), but I would suggest that I am doing at least as much as you are to remove the obstacles that prohibit the various energies of Kenyans (wherever they are) from being used to their full effectiveness in Kenya’s favour.
2. Okay, some Kenyans abroad are probably very well qualified and all, but you make a quantitative and not qualitative argument when you want us to throng back to “build” the country because
by what compass of arrogance do we assume that we, the glorious super-heroes of Kenya, can leap over tall buildings in a single bound and come home to teach you local ignoramuses the REAL way to do things.
Does this not assume that all of you at home have been sitting around examining your navels intensely and for recreation picking lice out of each other’s hair? I do not for one minute believe that there is something I know how to do better than at least four colleagues at home right now whom I know personally, and who are right now in the process of proving me right. They make a tenth of what I do, some of them don’t even have offices, they are worked nearly to death and in the end, are exploited, insulted and underappreciated. So what exactly is it that we abroad “geniuses” are going to contribute to the “building” of the country except a worse housing shortage and higher unemployment rates? Not to mention exponentially raising the incomes of customs officials as we are compelled to try to bribe our way back into our own country with our belongings intact?
3. The argument about sending money home has been raked over so many times that I have nothing further to add, except that while it may not “build” Kenya, I know for a fact that mine builds “Kenyans”–specific ones, who get to go to school and buy medicine and eat. And if they are healthier and better educated for it–that seems to me to be more meaningful than for me to come home and join them in their misery.
4. I’d really like to understand what all this “building” means: even if thousands of us come home today, do you think that some magical doors will open to our shouts of Open Sesame, so that we can immediately take over road construction, hospital administration, policy formulation and etc.? Puhleeze. If those of you at home, who are just as capable but have the advantages of knowing how to get things done from long familiarity if nothing else, cannot do it, then why on earth hang the responsibility on us?
If your excuse is you don’t know how to get things done I suggest you find an alternate one because that particular one no longer washes. As an academic it’s a fallacy, an oxymoron, and an irony for you to use ‘I don’t know how to’ as an argument!
5. We can’t even use all the talent that we DO have. We kill, or chase away, those who try to make a difference (and oh, by the way, where are all those marvellous residents when our local heroes are being persecuted?) Munyakei, anyone? Yes, I have a bee in my bonnet about him, it is true. And Githongo is not, really, the disappointment of the year, M. He left because a) he was not allowed to do the job that he had been told to do and as a result of his trying b) people were threatening to very immediately assist him in shuffling off his mortal coil. Under that sort of inducement, I would have walked to England, forget waiting for the plane.
6. I apologize for blogging on your blog, but you make a strawman out of us when you think that all we do is come home to party and to criticize (or over-enthuse, whichever is more pernicious). There’s more than one way to foil a government, make some change, care about home. We don’t have to do it your way to be doing it right. On the other hand, we don’t have to justify ourselves to be doing it at all. Again, apologies, man–went on for too long, kama kawaida.
99. TeeJ
(28 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 2:29 am
I started to read the comments but I got tired and pissed off coz of all the cop outs here. Ati ninety something comments?! I’ll finish reading them later..
Let me start by saying I’m a KT. So I’m also talking to myself here..
And I’ll most likely be all over the place so bear with me.
M, you and I know that most of these KTs consoling themselves that sending some money home is building the country are full of shit right? Why are you being nice to them? Tell them reread your post and then comment. M is not saying that you should blindly just go home after finishing school. That would be damn and wont help the country anyway coz you have no work experience.
What he is saying is after kedo 5-10yrs experience, start thinking of going home to help build our country. Start applying for jobs and don’t give up and say that there are no jobs just because the 1,2 times you applied u didn’t get the job. Try again and again. Why are we always waiting for other pple to do ‘it’. If not you and me who will?
There are many kenyan doctors, pharmacists, civil engineers, lawyers, architects, researchers, professors, etc here with so much experience that i bet u if they were to apply for a jobo back home they’d most certainly be hired.
M has said it over and over that what he is talking about is some serious dvpt of the country in terms of infrastructre……let me copy and paste what he said for those choosing to miss his point:
“I’m not sure we’re arguing on the same page. My arguments are for building the country, not just the economy. I’m talking in terms of infrastructure. Roads, bridges, buildings, telecommunications. I’m talking about disaster preparedness and management. I’m talking about medicare and education. Contrary to popular belief, money is not the panacea for everything. People need to actually work”
So, eh, how is that $100-a grand you are sending going to do this? That red only helps ur immediate family. Which is a good thing…don’t get me wrong. They most certainly need our help. But,he is talking about building the country as a whole.
I could be wrong, but si right now kplc wants to get the canadians or sijui italians to help them ‘manage’ their company or some shit like that? Why can’t this contract be given to kenyans…I’m sure there some out here or in kenya already who can do this job as well as the westerners can but since we don’t make ourselves and our qualifications known they’ll go looking for total foreigners to do it. And anyway we all know on the other hand how those old fossils think that coz ur young you are not qualified. When are they ever going to learn?
We need to think about our kids. Do we really want them to grow up here. Deep down we know this stato is not the place to raise a kid. They become spoilt brats because they can get away with alot of shit. We have to start to prepare our country now for our kids and their kids. We can’t educate them and then have them work to build other peoples countries! Aish how long should this go on for?
Actually another thing is, those of us out here should not be relying on getting hired at home anyway. We have the ability to save enough to go start a business, be consultants etc. Don’t say u cant be able to save enough to be able to do that coz u got bills, who doesn’t?! **I’m not taking about students here…u guys concentrate on ur studies for now**
Get a part time job if u work 9-5. There are many part time jobs out here. That will enable u to save. Don’t drive a lexus, get a toyota…trust me its the same car, you are just paying for the name…sorry hehehe. Telling the peeps at home ati they should be the ones starting the businesses is a tad shallow. It’s not as easy for them to get capital. Besides so many are trying anyway. Imagine what u can do if u started saving all the money from that ka part time job right now?
Saying that some people have tried and failed to set up a business and so it’s going to be hard for you is pure bull shit! You will not get very far in life with that kind of mentality. Why don’t you find out why that person failed in that business and learn from it. Some of them prolly didn’t have enough capital. Maybe they didn’t have a good business plan, maybe they got robbed/conned etc. We learn from our mistakes and those of others. Do some homework, I think it’s commonsense to do some research before starting a business. Don’t look at others failures and think you’ll fail too.
Dude you hit the nail on the head and some of us are trying to console ourselves coz we know we should be back home.
Ai, a KT asked Nick, a KR what he’s doing to help build the country or something like that?! Pole, that was below the belt. Ouch I feel ur pain my guy.
100. hash
(17 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 7:59 am
Hmmm. Not sure if I’m a KT or KR, but anyway, great article. You know you’ve touched on some of those things that no one in our community really wants to talk about deeply.
101. White African :: a white african’s view of the world » Blog Archive » M Tell’s Kenyans to go Back Home to Kenya
(No Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 8:05 am
[...] M, over at Thinker’s Room, is one of my favorite bloggers. His articles are always well written, witty and thought out. He pulls no punches in the most recent article “Having cake and eating it”, where he tells Kenyans living abroad to go home and fix Kenya. A small exerpt: I have nothing against settling overseas. After all, all of us dream of having a good life and are always in pursuit of actualizing our dreams. I don’t even have a problem with changing citizenship if it brings you closer to your dreams. The sad truth is that patriotism is not particularly edible and it’s difficult to remember the words of the national anthem when you’re hungry. [...]
102. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 9:22 am
The Wangui, Onyango, Kilimo etc have been accustomed to this way of living for the past 5 - 10 years, it would be rather hard for them to try and adjust their “way of living” just for the sake of coming back and building the country. Though these are the same conditions that they were used to living before, making teh adjustment really takes a strong will power.
I am tickled by these comment.I pressupose that a true KT lives in Kenya for about 17-20 years before looking for “greener pastures”.
That can be erased in 5 years? I will say like KM Ngai fafa.
103. Wangu
(27 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 12:15 pm
@ TeeJ
YOU COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!
@ KTs arguing against the article
… “Why are you being nice to them? Tell them reread your post and then comment. M is not saying that you should blindly just go home after finishing school. That would be dumb and wont help the country anyway coz you have no work experience.” …
That having been said, I think the point we are trying to make here is that charity begins at home.
It matters that you are sending money to Kenya … and we are grateful, but the bottom line is, you must get your hands dirty. This, in essence means, that if our children will want to study abroad and come back to work in Kenya, or even better, study and work in Kenya, we must lay the groundwork. That, quite unfortunately, involves more risk than prospect. You must be ready to be paid less than you would abroad, or invest your hard-earned dollars, pounds or [insert currency of choice] in a Kenyan enterprise that has a 50-50 chance of succeeding.
Now, as a KR, you have the same options as a KT (with regard to living and working in Kenya or abroad). It doesn’t matter what they say about opportunity … if you’re good for the job, it doesn’t matter what institution of learning you graduated from.
Vice versa for KTs. Same goes for enterpreneurship opportunities … and the odds of getting investors on board.
It is important to remember that nothing good comes easy … but then again, what’s it worth if it doesn’t involve worry, sweat and prayers?
We don’t need to mince our words … if you’ll build Kenya, you need to be here … whether you’ll start by sending money or not.
104. spicebear
(12 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 12:35 pm
i agree with all those who say that there has been alot of pussyfooting around the whole issue that was brought up.
if you are out there making a buck, you have to want to come back to make a real difference, you have to have plans in the woodworks you have to think about what you can do to make a change. you have to roll up your sleeves and go through all that bureauocracy that any young enterprenuer in kenya without tangible connections or a ‘god father’ has to go through. you have to endure all the blood sweat and tears. lazima. what, you thought it would be easy? haiya, what world are you living in?
yes, we (speaking as one in the diaspora) leave to get better opportunities and education and … insert reason of choice here. the abundancy of running water and no power outtages helps. and the way the roads are smooth - wee, wacha tu. no one has refused. we all want better for ourselves, and in turn provide for our families. if you want to stay on, then as M keeps saying, then that’s your prerogative.
do not however, keep saying that you will only come come if things change or that kenya is too dirty, insecure or badly managed for you to survive. come run for parliament or president and implement change from the inside. it’s clear that those who have the ability and power to do so are too busy counting money and accrueing real estate and cars so someone has to do it, why not you? come up and start up businesses. invest. do something if you really are serious. it takes work, and you have to be involved in the nation building that has been talked about - sensible people with innovative ideas for the good of the country.
if you would rather not, then that’s fine. as has been stated over and over in the comments section, sending money does help and no one will demonise you for it. but don’t keep making excuses as to why you would not come back even if you wanted to. if you are comfortable wherever you are, then say so. it’s your decision. but if you are sitting around waiting for change to come without actually initiating it or doing something, no matter how small, then you need to make up your mind - go back home and invest or whatever takes your fancy or stay abroad and do your bit from there. there are no two ways about it.
105. Shiroh
(130 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 1:36 pm
if you are out there making a buck, you have to want to come back to make a real difference, you have to have plans in the woodworks you have to think about what you can do to make a change. you have to roll up your sleeves and go through all that bureauocracy that any young enterprenuer in kenya without tangible connections or a ‘god father’ has to go through. you have to endure all the blood sweat and tears. lazima. what, you
Wazi spicey,…hey where did you run away to?
106. eclipse
(110 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 2:07 pm
hi M u made the papers again na this time round they observed copyright laws and acknowledged you….just make sure that when u become a celeb u remember that you know me…
107. Vixen
(1 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 3:25 pm
M,

Read about you in the Sunday Nation. Had to come read your article.
108. Kenyan Pundit » African blogosphere hits the mainstream press…
(No Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 4:25 pm
[...] First, the Nigerian blogosphere was recently featured in the mainstream press. Then Thinker and other Kenyan bloggers get profiled in the Standard (with proper attribution and all!) courtesy of this post. [...]
109. mwafriqa
(1 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 6:22 pm
THanx M for igniting debate on the subject, First i dont blame guys out there for not coming back EN MASSE to live, work and develop their country. However, i believe they can participate more effectively in determining the destiny of our country. The problem in our wonderful country is not the lack of jobs, poor economy, non performing public sector da da da these are just symptoms of the disease that has tormented us since independence. Our disease is IGNORANCE, we are ignorant of our rights and as a result we do not attend to our CIVIC RESPONSIBILITIES. ” a nation of sheep begets a government of wolves.”
Due to our ignorance weve had to stomach a fossilised generation of leaders who have ruled since independence, leaders that lack the vision, drive, commitment u name it, all the virtues that take to lead a country to prosperity. All along we have continued to elect this group of leaders to power and expect them to change our country for the better, you cannot employ the same tactic and expect different results.
So what am i saying, Politics is the hub that everything else rotates around and unless you fix it then the wheel wont function.
For us ” LOCAL Patriots” who can still remember the words of our national anthem albeit the chronic hunger brought about by a year of drought, we are slowly trying to fix the political problem.
We have to get a new generation of young, energetic, visionary leaders, after singing ‘KIBAKI TOSHA’ in 2002 we have finally proved u cant teach old dogs new tricks so now we want to check out new brooms see how clean they sweep.
Young professionals in Kenya are coming together to offer alternative leadership in all levels of Governance. We want a parliament dominated by young guys (under 45) this way we can be sure to get a government with young professional Ministers. This wave will sweep through the entire Civil service, jobs shall be attained on merit and retained through results.
Only after this happens shall we be able to create an enabling environment that shall facilitate a reversal of the ‘BRAIN DRAIN.’ Get your PRIORITIES right, wiring money thru Western Union helps ( i should know am a regular recepient) but it wont bring about sustainable change & development. “LET US REMOVE THIS GENERATION OF LEADERS FROM POWER”
SO WHAT CAN Kenyans in diaspora as they are commonly refrerred to do to contribute to this change effort, ORGANISE yourselves into proactive groups and mobilize a collective fund that shall support change efforts back home. These fossil leaders have accumulated alot of wealth so they always buy their way back to power. We dont need to match their resources since we have the goodwill of the country( which cant be bought) but resources always go a long way.
Let me reitarete dear brothers & Sisters, the problem is POLITICAL so it requires a POLITICAL solution, i know we all love to hate politics but theres no other way. WE shall approach you soon with a new vision, do not turn your heads away.
110. Irena
(15 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Woah Thinker , this is the bitter truth. I see your point and it is ironic that we are busy building other countries when ours is going down the drain so to speak.
One of the many reasons why we give excuses of not going back is “there is nothing to go back to” But the question is, if we are that smart and have high IQ , then why can’t we be innovative in our own country. We all expect the government to pave a path and create a climate of which we can come back to. I , personally have used that excuse that the government need to create an environment to make us come back but if we are not showing signs of trying to do so, then how can the government create one?
With the acquired knowledge we can join hands and create organizations, companies , political lobbyist groups, political parties , we can use our knowledge to tap the natural resources that has not been tapped . A good case in point is India, you just have to see how India are using their “aborad acquired knowleged to build their countries. I totally agree sending money back home to relas who lazily waits for it very week, month , doing nothing to better themselves but text one day in day out begging is another “welfare system ” we are creating in Kenya and contributing to the wealth of Western Union. As someone said above, we can also not sit and point fingers from a far about our decaying government because politics/power affects the soci/economic and to change that, we have to organize ourselves and go back and do something for our country for when we raise that flag in our cars while abroad , when we put that sticker of “I love Kenya” how much do we love Kenya really? If we love Kenya as we say we do while abroad then actions speaks louder than words..
Great entry Thinker!!!
111. KT#1
(3 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 8:34 pm
It’s true that the political climate in Kenya has to change - and more importantly, and in the interest of KTs, free enterprise has to be encouraged and protected - regardless of who is in power. But talk is cheap my people. Put your money where your mouth is and lets get organized! Let us not perpetuate the stereotype of the typical KT who only TALKS about Kenya - politics and all, and do nothing to make a significant difference. As I said earlier, the truth is that we will always be foreigners anywhere else but in Kenya. So for you who don’t mind that, chill where you are for all our sakes. For us others, lets do something about it. I’m in Houston, TX - email me at lisbon@sbcglobal.net if you’re serious. We have already set up an organization that’s doing just that.
112. Brooder
(2 Comments) | January 23rd, 2006 at 9:41 pm
109 responses so far. That’s quite some interest u’ve generated with this issue. I’m a newcomer to this whole blogging experience, which I must admit is quite something… or maybe I just like the way you think. You’re quite a gifted person, you know. I enjoy your clarity of thought and exquisite humour. I think you have the ability to become an opinion shaper and it’s good to see you use your talent in such a constructive way. Keep it flowing.
For our brothers and sisters in the diaspora, let’s think about how we can really build Kenya; all of us in our different ways for everyone has a role to play.
And remember that if you give a man a fish, you feed him for just a day. Teach him how to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime!
113. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 1:29 am
Okay M,
Firstly, you deliberately misread what I was saying–so gloves are off.
Of course I am aware of the sad state of tertiary education. I am trying to tell you that it isn’t because of the lack of teachers, but rather because the professors who are there are treated like crap, and cannot do their work, and so many who would be university professors do not even bother. You don’t need to recall me; the ones there just need to be treated better and you’ll see how magically those prof/student ratios improve.
Secondly, did I at any time forward myself as a general? In fact, that was my point. You DO NOT need me there doing what others are already doing better than I could. Perhaps I need to be here doing what it is I am doing better than others can.
Thirdly, I hope you are now satisfied on the matter of John Githongo, who as must now be apparent, did not go to Oxford to sleep. I knew about some of what he was doing and did try gently to hint that perhaps you might have been misjudging him. Since you had been somewhat hard on him earlier, I hope that you will be gracious enough now to extend whatever kudos you think he may deserve? And, not to hammer the point to death, if Githongo is someone who obviously has been working away in own quiet way to do what he can, whilst, I am forced to point out, living abroad–are you at least willing to consider that the rest of us are not goldfish watchers or even penthouse dwellers, and that our minds might be occupied with projects somewhat more profound and more committed than where to buy our next Italian suit?
I’ve chewed flak from the very instant I put that post, and been called everything from “idiot”, to “naive”, to “unrealisitc” to “spineless” to “mentally lazy” and even more use a whole bunch of less printable words.
Which is all good. I’m not particularly bothered about that. Just as I am entitled to my views, you are entitled to yours. Plus, I don’t respond to insults because not only is it water off a duck’s back, but also my time is valuable and besides, anyone who can descend to insults first, especially without being (wo)man enough to do it to my face, is unlikely to be a worthy opponent. I can’t stop people from taking solitary lines of my arguments and working themselves into a murderous rage. Nor will I attempt to. fondly believe that most people are adults who appreciate that the world is not black and white, but is indeed composed of shades of grey.
I am not about to apologize to anyone for my views and opinions.
Like I said before, I will repeat again. I fully appreciate the hardships the man underwent. I fully appreciate that out of a healthy respect for his neck he had to flee. What I took objection to was his sitting on what he knew while purportedly giving lectures on the ills of corruption.
Well, turns out that he may not have been actually sitting on that info, if the local press is anything to go by.
If that be the case then I without reservation withdraw my assertion that he was a disappointment, and what’s more kudos to him.
If we went back in time and had to do it all over again I’d post the very same post. I only believe in what I see, and that is unlikely to change.
So hats off to John Githongo.
That these projects might even be inspired not by selfish materialism but a desire to do what our individual skills can to make the place we call home a better place? Perhaps the KT stereotype needs to go back into its carton.
Fourthly, the utopia of being in the diaspora is a figment of your imagination. Quite apart from material hardships, as has been noted by many of your interlocuters, there’s frankly just not place like home, and we get horribly homesick with the best of them. Not that we need sympathy–but it ain’t no bed of roses.
Finally, stop telling those of us who aren’t there what to do and get on with doing whatever it is those of you who are there should be doing.
We’ll do our bit as and when we can. Generalisations M, are a dangerous thing. You simply cannot attempt to squeeze however many of us are not at home into a box labelled with whichever negative sobriquets are current and hope to do so in good faith. It is alarming, it is unjust, and frankly, it makes some of us wonder why we bother to do anything at all, if we have to contend not just with all the institutional and political ills that we are trying, in our small ways, to correct, but also with these rather facile attacks based on incomplete and distorted “evidence.” It all makes me rather sad, which is neither here nor there.
114. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 2:50 am
One more thing (I’m really just trying to up the number of commentaries that appear beside my name, so that I can work towards my lifetime goal of appearing on your top groupie list).
There are some things, which need doing–for Kenya’s sake–which simply cannot be done in Kenya. You are thinking about entrepreneurship and whatnots, but there’s other sorts of necessary work, considering the vast web of global institutions and multilaterals and corporations etc., that Kenya is entangled in and believe me, I am a lot more effective at it here than I am over there, and frankly, with a complete lack of modesty, I can do what I do from here in this respect better than anyone else because I have worked very had to make myself that person with that capacity. So why don’t we move beyond the Western Union levels of this debate and sensibly conclude that to be a contributing (even building–which term still puzzles me) Kenyan is a matter of commitment, dedication and disposition, and not a matter of geography. I cannot resist adding that whatever it is that you do in your professional life, I would argue that the greatest contribution you have made to Kenya is this blog and your writing, (pace Wallace Kantai) which has created an unparalleled space of public discourse and really constituted a “civil” society in the best Habermasian sense. This, clearly, does not depend on your being in Kenya in order to do. Funny how that works out, innit?
But that being said and done, let us agree to disagree.
115. Wanjiru
(4 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 3:21 am
Brain drain is an issue!!!!! But I ask, why are there Kenyan nurses been dragged to UK right under the nose of the minstry of health and nothing is done about it? They cannot couter the offer because of lack of resources.
Politicians have let the country go to the dogs. The poor packages been offered to graduates makes working at a call centre very attractive. We have graduates with degrees pumping gas. The few that do get a foot in the door was through a relative or brother in-law of the Human resource manager. Pick any of these banks CBA,Standard, Barclays.
Reading through the comments, some ideas are realistic others idealistic.
There is only one Nelson Mandela, one who can set aside his happiness for the greater good. Asking well established waithera’s and Onyango’s to pack up and go home to place of uncertainity insecurity and sacifice their pension plan, for the motherland does not make you a patriot. What did Ngugi wa Thiongo get ? A noble prize winner the best job she can get is an assistant minister, you try to do your job the next thing you will be fleeing for your life, Githongo.The motherland is not ready to absorb us.
116. SelfishGoldfishWatcher
(2 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 8:57 am
To add to the debate, it sounds like there needs to be more background info that many at home are not aware of. For one, to work on Wall Street, or to be influential enough to bring connections to start a business in Kenya, then most probably one does not take a 15 day vacation in Kenya (which translates to 3 wks of the job when travel is included). Most people at the senior professional to executive level on Wall Street would be fired to be that disconnected form the office. I know of a VP who transfered out of New York to work 50-60 hr wks, and still had information faxed to him when on vacation, and called in to work daily.
Also, most of the Kenyans who have graduated from the school/Nursing Home, cleaning older people grind are just beginning to hit their stride, and are quite few. Most Kenyans are not in the sciences, and major in business. That has limited job growth, especially if not graduating from an elite school. In Kenya an MBA from William Paterson in New Jersey sounds prestigious, but here it is considered a low-end school. Many are now just beginning to realise that. Also, coming from Kenya there are not that many that have the resources to go to a schools like Northwestern, or Duke to get the MBA, that many Asians went to in the 80’s, 90’s and established contacts to drive their economic powerhousee. In time, the Kenyan community will gather clout, and wealth, and will be able to wield it to influence change in Kenya.
There have been some references to the Indian economy, one forgets that there was a long sustained brain drain in the Indian economy, they have several decades ahead of Kenya. The Indians were able to start businesses here in the U.S. and then leverage that to start business in India. China has had a similar experience. Alot of overseas Chinese invest in China, but since they are in the west, it looks like western investment.
M, also I would suggest that you are working from a 70, 80’s outlook to “development”. Kenya is a signatory to the WTO, and as such is part of the global economy. Any business opened in Kenya is impacted by the global economy, and has to operate at that level. I will give you an example that I am very familiar with. At the Fortune 500 company I work at, we deal with a software development team in Bangalore, India. It was formed by a group of Indians who worked in Silicon Valley, and made millions in the 90’s. They returned, but they have a group that works here in the US, and is on site. They also have a group that if we need to have development shifted back to the US is stationed here in the US. I would hazard to guess all the wonderful changes getting a NHIF pin might even be software built by this company. To develop the software they market in India, and in other countries, they develop first for “demanding” customers in the west. That is the new economic game. Build for the west, recover a large part of your fixed costs, and then market to the rest of the world, and you can then beat most competitors in price. In this model, staying in India, Kenya, Vietnam, or staying in the west becomes a moot point.
To sumarise, the Kenyans abroad do not have the clout and wealth one thinks, as most of the immigration is recent.
117. Steve Ntwiga Mugiri » Blog Archive » Having Cake And Eating It: a rebuttal
(No Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 9:18 am
[...] I just read this post over at tHINKER’S rOOM ( his way of writing it ). I enjoyed reading it almost as much as I am sure he enjoyed writing it. I also like his really cool graphics and wonder whether those are done on paper then scanned or produced right on PC. Maybe I will find out one day. [...]
118. Ntwiga
(25 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 9:22 am
hi
I just wrote a rebuttal to this on my blog, its quite long and I was not sure that you would have liked to have it all in your comments.
Maybe you can link to it if you like. Who knows, it might even keep the debate going.
You can find my post here:
http://ntwiga.net/blog/?p=43
thanks
Ntwiga
119. sidaki
(51 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 10:35 am
@Ntwiga
A rebuttal of your rebuttal.
Statistics can be use to prove anything. My strength is logic and not statistics so bear with me.
M’s point.
The return of Kenyans abroad would have a great impact on the Kenya economy:
Ntwiga’s point.
20% of Kenya’s skilled workers work abroad as compared to that of the carribean at 45% and Jamaica’s at 85%. You then say that these countries are more developed than Kenya based on GDP.
My point.
Ntwiga compares the Kenya’s GDP to that of Jamaica and implies that the countries he mentioned are more developed than Kenya because they have a greater percentage of their skilled workers abroad.
This is only implied and for a man who claims to love empirical data, you have made what is known as an assumption. You have assumed that they send money home and you have further assumed that it is this money that has developed these countries.
However, I cannot fault your point on the unemployment rate and your point is taken. These KT’s can’t come back to work. There are NO jobs.
M’s 2nd point.
My skepticism of those figures (due to the source of the speech) notwithstanding, I’ve already acknowledged that the money does not count as nothing. However a large chunk of it goes towards subsistent expenditure rather than capital generation and infrastructural development. Which is precisely what we need to build Kenya.
This was M’s response to a comment made by Chrenyan that Kenya recieves alot of money from abroad annually. You updated the figure to something like 1 billion dollars.
My point.
True, it is alot of money. Actually, it is a sizeable percentage of our budget and if what you say is true, then this money is a great boost to our country.
However, consider the current state of our economy and keep in mind the companies that control it. All the major companies are foreign. So even if you send 2,000 dollars to your dad and tell him to build a house. He will spend some of it on labour and most of it on materials. True? Of course. And who, pray will sell him the materials?
Getting my point yet?
Some of this 2000 dollars gets repatriated back to the West as profits to some multi-nationals. Now multiply this effect by the figure you gave and you will realise that the money Kenya recieves, NET, is actually quite less. This has got to be true, logically.
That is why it has been suggested that those KT’s should come home and start businesses that wil tie some of this capital down.
Your third point was that:
Kenyans who leave to exploit opportunities outside the country are not patriotic since they do not personally participate in the day to day activities of building Kenya.
My response to that is simple. You misunderstood M. That is NOT what he meant. He meant that they shouldn’t think that just because they send money home, they are building. It’s okay to send money but it shouldn’t end there.
120. kanyundo
(1 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
Thank you M for unleashing the true vibe…
On ” …The sad truth us that patriotism is not particularly edible and it’s difficult to remember the words of the national anthem when you are hungry.”
Many of us can identify with schoolday parades and how we used to sing our anthem but seldom think about its words. If not the parades then remember the anthem played in theatres before any other presentation. Right there, in our anthem, lies the beginnings of a sustainable solution in building our nation. We need to keep revisiting our nation’s song and grasp the underlying values spoken of .Then LIVE those values and tell us whether we will go hungry if we do.
A good man (woman) leaves an inheritance for his childrens children. Whether from afar or on ground each of us has the responsibility to live good lives - leaving a sustainable heritage for those alive and those yet to be born.This is what building the nation is about. Tee J said it well ” We have to start to prepare our country for our kids and their kids. ”
We cannot afford to live as if Kenya is a budding graveyard (where dead bodies are buried when the life is gone) or nursing home ( where retirees live their sunset years).We can do better than that, ama?
121. SelfishGoldfishWatcher
(2 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
Ntwiga said it best, and I quote
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+ We have a generation of great minds schooled in the 70s who have retired who never got a participate in leading Kenya’s development and are now retired. They were marginalized into beaureucratic roles and we never, as a nation, got to enjoy the potential for work and development that they offered us.
+ We currently have another generation who finished school in the 80s who are in their prime right now. They too are not getting a chance to participate in shaping and leading the direction the great nation of Kenya should take.
+ My generation, who finished school in the 90s, will also be passed by as the current crop of politicians ursurp us too.
Money talks, that is what politicians respond to. How else are they running around following Britain and the U.S. ’s bidding? The telecommunication changes are a result of behind the scenes pressure from big money.
Even here in the U.S. the reason there is no State Dept warning for India when people are killed in ethnic clashes, but a major warning for Kenya has a lot to do with economic clout. Indian outsourcers call their US clients , who in turn pressure the State Dept.
Another example, every politician is careful about not upsetting the Israel lobby, even though Jews don’t account for a large percentage of the population. You would think that in a population of 300 mill, there would at least be some bigotted politician who would have said something against Israel, but even the bigots know better.
Money, allows one to influence and if need be ,take principled stands. If you have money to pay your bills, and your children are fed, you are more likely to say no, and be less likely to be blackmailed into rubber stamping the schemes that comes out of the politicians heads.
It is all about the Benjamins.
122. acolyte
(177 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
Time to keep the fire burning.I agree with M in that sending money for expenditure does not develop the nation but I think that if that money is used to set up a business with me as a silent partner helps develop the nation, furthermore if I can use my presence here to establish business contacts for the services of the biz all the better!What I am trying to say is that we do not all have to be in Kenya to develop it.In my case I deal with intellectual propery so work can be done and be profited from by Kenyans whether I am looking at goldfish in new york or my dogs in Nai.So much as not being in Kenya may not build it, being there does not mean you are doing so too.My $0.02!
123. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 24th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
M,
I just tried to email you (I didn’t want to spoil this thread by introducing non relevant materials) but I wanted to point out something that is still cracking me up–and your email from the blog isn’t working for me. So I do what? Hey! I made it to the groupie list!!! I can die happy now.
124. Open Blog: KenyaUnlimited » Blogosphere roundup
(No Comments) | January 25th, 2006 at 4:30 am
[...] The standard piece specifically pointed to the post “Having cake and eating it”, where M urges diaspora kenyans to move back to Kenya. The post generated alot of discussion, and introduced an interesting set of abbreviations such as KT (Kenyan Tourist - diaspora kenyan returning for a visit), and KR (Kenyan Roots - Kenyans living and working in Kenyan). The discussion included the question of whether remittance from diaspora kenyans can be considered nation building. Commentary from Diaspora kenyans/bloggers made for a very spirited discussion. [...]
125. Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kenyan Sphere Roundup
(No Comments) | January 25th, 2006 at 5:28 am
[...] The Standard piece specifically pointed to the post “Having cake and eating it”, where M urges diaspora kenyans to move back to Kenya. The post generated alot of discussion, and introduced an interesting set of abbreviations such as KT (Kenyan Tourist - diaspora kenyan returning for a visit), and KR (Kenyan Roots - Kenyans living and working in Kenyan). The discussion included the question of whether remittance from diaspora kenyans can be considered nation building. Commentary from Diaspora kenyans/bloggers made for a very spirited discussion. [...]
126. kimland
(2 Comments) | January 25th, 2006 at 7:42 am
Its not many decade ago that this scornful view of migration was centered at the village level. If you left for the city you were a sell-out. Obviously not many of those who remained in the villages are anywhere to participate in this debate now. Many changed heart as moving to the cities became a way of life. It is some of those who moved to the cities that are now the judges of how love for the roots must be practiced (by staying put no matter what).
By the way the argument that sending money from foreign lands does not build the nation runs counter to both economic theory and reality. It is not certain that the European economy would be up on the map anywhere close to where it is today if it were not for a purposeful project in the aftermath of WW II to transfer wealth, not the pilgrims as would fit your argument, from the US. Obviously you brought up a very good debate and you are on a constructive project with it. Just be a little less stubborn. There have been enough things said here to make a mind like yours change a few thoughts. If I should feel guilty of being outside Kenya, how much more guilty should I have felt when I left my home for a distant city years earlier? Oh, now you won’t judge lest you fit in the frame of those accused. I wonder how often you find yourself thinking “ho, there goes the British who are showing there dislike for their nation living in Kenya.”
You responded like this to my earlier: “Aha! Are you saying failure to find someone to give you a job is reason enough for you to throw in the towel? If everyone thought that way then the very notion of entrepreneurship would be slapped smartly in the face! Where will those jobs come from if no one creates them?” Not everyone should think that way, because we are all made differently. There are those of us who are entrepreneurs, and they do their thing whether in Kenya or abroad. Then there are those who are baked to run what has already been put together. For these, if Kenya has no job to offer, looking around in Uganda or elsewhere is the thing to do. Alternatively they can try to be the entrepreneurs, but in vain for they are not, or muggers to harvest where they have not planted.
127. kpd
(1 Comments) | January 25th, 2006 at 7:02 pm
what? where have i been?? i’m just catching this hot post now. i shall blame it on the KTs and their december plots. as recent returnee, i should have some comments, but i must first read all these 126 comments. back shortly.
128. joe
(78 Comments) | January 25th, 2006 at 9:29 pm
ok yes the only way to build kenya is to come back and work . when was the last time you so jobs in kenya waiting for the most qulified candidate to apply
129. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 26th, 2006 at 7:57 am
M,
Still fighting for my place on your groupie list. But I’ve been keeping an eye on the comments and,let us call it, the discursive flow. Tell me, how is it, that no matter how well argued an opposing point of view might be, you never acknowledge its merits or even its skillfulness; on the other hand, any old person who agrees with you, wether they know a transitive verb from a giraffe, thinks a phrase is a sentence and has no conception of the difference between “their” and “there” (all these examples are here, I promise) gets kudos from you?
Quite apart from grammar, there’s just the logic and analysis that has been deployed in compliment, if also in disagreement, to you. I’ve been bowled over by it. Given your skill, wouldn’t you agree that those who disagree with you have to work quite a lot harder than those who only have to tell you how precisely you’ve hit the nail on the head? I may be fantasising–but its my fantasy, dammit!–that on the whole, as interlocuters, the ones who go to real trouble to think about what you are saying and come up with conceptual, analytical and even empirical reasons to refute your argument are your true peers. Si, you at least acknowledge them, nani? Instead of shuffling them off with “refer to above comment.” I’m talking about Keguro, about Ntwiga, about the dozens of others who think your opinions are important enough to take time out to think through and think back at. (Yes, I’m still writing that thing about you, so this is all grist to my mill, but I suppose I’m what you call a participant observer.) As for calling my argument shadow-boxing, that is pure ad hominen argument/and also quite cheap, my brudder–meaning what? I can argue prettily but not really make a point? You may be right and probably are, but what does that add to the value of our discourse here? And anyway, it is the aesthetics of my argument that persuades–what shadows would I be boxing that are less substantial than your ill-considered KT stereotype? Really M, I don’t take you nearly as literally as you take me, but that’s neither here nor there: we’ll debate metaphors and allegores some other time.
In this particular instance, I’m searching for the M who (do you know my research assistant has downloaded and printed every one of your posts for the last two years) was confident yet curious, firm yet funny, but most of all, gracious to his interlocuters–however un- or anti- intelligent they sounded. I’d quite like him back. Part of your particular attraction, apart from your trenchant intelligence, your implacable opinions and your irresistible humuor, was how gentle you were with people whom you knew didn’t have the full measure of your gifts. Or did, but were using them mistakenly. You really were very sweet with them, you know. I could quote you URL and verse, but it is not mine intent to bring a blush to your brow. You were also extremely, exceedingly courteous to those who disagreed with you; a civility and a courtesy that I’ve missed recently.
But you know, I’m full of maoni yangu, as per kawa, eh?
Howsoever, nani, credit the opposition when the opposition is making you the compliment of using their best language and their best arguments against you. A person is judged by his (well, actually, it says “enemies” but that’s a bit overstated) opponents. The better yours are, the bigger the acknowledgement of your own argument. So, please, return the favour. It’s a sort of M’ish thing to do, I think. I don’t know where I got that idea, but I’m not letting go of it. I know this debate has been rocking and rolling, but I also know you are a person who appreciates good writing and good thinking. I am concerned that apart from generic admissions of “never having told anyone to come home” or “never having said sending money is bad” or “never having said that people should not do what they want” you’ve dismissed or at least failed to acknowledge/engage the quality of the arguments of some of those who disagree with you. M, someone went to the trouble of dedicating an entire blog entry to a refutation of you, complete with World Bank figures and all! I don’t know if he is right: that isn’t the point. But I do know that that is some serious hesh and some deep deep props coming your way–a kareturn wouldn’t go amiss. This doesn’t take five minutes, or ten: it involves apprehending you as a very serious opinion maker and public intellectual, and attempting to show you by the standard of research and skill employed to engage you the amount of respect they bear you. (To spoil this, M, brudder, let me say I didn’t even open one book when I was writing back to you. On the other hand, I thought for a while…and thinking is what I get paid to do) Of course I haven’t even begun to get into my differences with you, and really, I don’t see why I should, because we keep saying the same thing and then framing it as if we are disagreeing–it is very tiring. In any case, my ego doesn’t need that much: I get quite enough flattery chez moi.
But since you know you write beautifully, I think you have room to be generous. And I STILL can’t send you an email, for heaven’s sake. But did you at least get the bcc’d ones? Reserve comment for most useful and opportune time, however, please try to answer me when you get a second at the real email.
Peace, out.
Well, you’re right. I’ve not given the opposing view the richly deserves kudos. But that has been entirely inadvertent. I have indeed noted some of the thougtfully put arguments, and marked them with a little start to address them separately for the excellent reason that they require quite a bit more than a few words. But as you can see this discussion has overwhelmed me and I can just barely keep up with acknowledging those in a agreement, which does not require much, let alone the others that require a bit more.
Unfortunately for me I have bills to pay and as it so happens I’ve been a tad occipied most of this week, more so than I usually am.
That having been said as soon as the chaos in my other life of fighting crime, saving the world and living a double life as a law abiding citizen i’ll get round to addressing everyone as they deserve, especially those on the other side. I hope they’ll return and see this.
And as for the KT thing I am amazed that you of all people have taken it literally. I hoped that by now regulars knew well enough to identify when I was talking tongue in cheek. Anyone who miscosntrued my KT & KR as stereotypes and got themselves tied in knots — what can I say? Poleni. Relax a little. Smell the oxygen.
And as for my admissions and denials, many people, including yourself, selected isolated bits of what I said and proceeded to use these as ammunition. It’s a quirky thing with me but this really gets my goat. Now really, what is one to do in such instances? Which is the best way to argue in a situation where the ammunition being used against you has nothing to do with what you originally said?
Anyway, apologies again to those in the opposition who feel likewise — I shall get round to you as soon as I can
130. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 26th, 2006 at 10:18 am
And M, as some Shakespearean character said, “I am content.”
And I would be remiss if I did not thank you for the incredible service you have give to our country, the impetus you have inserted into our thinking, and the very real benefits of purpose and urgency you have brought to our lives. All props to M. And I don’t often do that.
I think (and naivete may be freely attributed to me) that you have made us more intelligent, more aware, and certainly more critical. Not bad, for a techno-geek. Yes, you impress me. And again, not may do. And you make me laugh and think at the same time. Not many can.
Not to be arrogant (but of course I am)but I am a hell of a hard audience. I’m not just eating out of your hand, I’m thinking of eating your hand as well!
Shukria. And te salutanti.
131. M
(9 Comments) | January 26th, 2006 at 10:46 am
Steve Ntwiga over at http://ntwiga.net/blog/ wrote an interesting rebuttal to this particular post, and I’ve just finished readng it and here is my cross posted comment
It’s taken me a bit of time (daily bread and all that jazz) but I’m here to rebut your rebuttal. It’s an excellent piece, and clearly a lot of thought and research has gone into it, and I’m sure you also enjoyed writing it as I did reading it
The return of Kenyans abroad would have a great impact on the Kenya economy:
Introducing numbers to prove this point is a double edged sword, because as we all know statistics can (and are) by both the pro and the anti of whatever debate of the day. So let’s take the facts from your research
- 85% of skilled Jamaicans are in the diaspora
- 20% of skilled Kenyans are in the diaspora
- Jamaica’s GDP is 350 or so % of that of Kenya
Would I be out of line in arguing that if Jamaica’s figure reduced to 40% that would lead to
- Increase in intellectual and human capital in Jamaica
- Increased likelihood of improved productivity in some sectors
- An even more increased GDP?
With regards to employment I agree with you. We do have a jobs problem. But my point was that this in itself should not stop you from coming back, especially if you are the entrepreneurial type, as someone pointed out to me. If entrepreneurship is a gene, and it is dominant in 10% or 5% of people, then I dare say entrepreneurs in returning from the diaspora would make quite a difference in the unfortunate 58% unemployment rate, don’t you think? Of course the locals also need to take up the very same mantle
Kenyans cannot participate in nation building from outside the country.
I will not belabour the point that money sent to Kenya is not useless. I agree with you to some extent: some people do indeed use the money for capital expenditure, chiefly construction and to some extent, starting up businesses. But I still think that most do not.
I also disagree completely that infrastructural development is best left to this mysterious thing called ‘Government’. Who is the government if not the people? How will we build quality infrastructure if the Government is not staffed by quality people?
Kenyans who leave to exploit opportunities outside the country are not patriotic since they do not personally participate in the day to day activities of building Kenya.
I won’t spend much time on this because I’ve said nothing remotely of the kind. As a matter of fact I agree entirely with you!
132. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 26th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
Ati you’ve only made three comments to yourself? au! For shame, nani.
But thanks for the Ntigwa response.
And now, are you going to write about Kibaki’s speech gone wrong? It is a piece waiting to happen, but I didn’t do it, because I know you can do it so MUCH better! So hurry up.
And, okay, now email is working, asante sana.
See you in jail.
W
133. Keguro
(33 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 12:06 am
First, M has been entirely too generous in allowing us to use his space. We have been, perhaps in true Kenyan fashion, loud, rude, disagreeable, funny, very funny, and even more funny, at the same time as we have tried to address ongoing issues. In part, we continue to return, to read comments, and to comment because we think about these questions on an ongoing basis.
I think, for example, of my father who earned his degree in London, and left his wife and three young children to create a better future. I know some of us are in similar situations, with families and loved ones who wait and pray and hope.
I am less interested in the ostensible distinction between those “who stayed” and those “who left,” than I am in what it takes to build a country.
With M, I agree that we cannot assign such a task to “government.” We need to abandon our post-independence reaganomics–benefits flow down–and start thinking, or continue thinking about how to bring the public and private, formal and informal sectors together. These initiatives are already in place, but they must be expanded.
On my own blog (yes, I’m flogging myself), I have written that I “choose” to remain abroad for practical reasons (I have a degree to finish) but, more importantly, for psychic and social reasons. Even as I watch freedoms erode, I can find safe spaces here, like-minded people, without trying to explain what “queer” means or joining Nairobi’s queer coterie (I’m not a fan). More importantly, I have also written that I tend to feel impotent when in Kenya. As Ory records in her blog, information is scarce, access limited, and routine procedures require smiles and handshakes, high prices to pay.
So (forgive the ramble), how do we translate the various acts of formal and informal civic participation (women’s groups, neighborhood associations, church groups, self-help industries) into recognizable political currency? How might, for example, local government or city councils work with such groups in ways that share agency and empower people?
You see, when I think of Kenya, the immediate phrase is “shauri ya mungu,” an abrogation of agency tied to a social space that nurtures dependence while begging for initiative.
At least since the 70s Ngugi has been singing about the national psyche, a song he took from Fanon. How can we empower ourselves, not simply materially but also socially and psychically?
How do we change our fatalism into action? How do we stop looking for Samuel to anoint David and start being David? (Sexist implications noted)
More than a debate between KT and KR (tongue in cheek noted), these are the questions that now consume me.
134. magaidi
(42 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 2:15 am
This here comment by Joe (as in now i’m commenting on comments on M’s site) just made my day. No need for facts or figures/names, no research needed, no transitive verbs (WM! bit me).
“ok yes the only way to build kenya is to come back and work . when was the last time you so jobs in kenya waiting for the most qulified candidate to apply ”
?
135. dreddlocked1
(5 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 4:48 am
very interesting, i wish i had heard about this spot earlier.
If you will allow me I will throw in my kobole’.
Thinker, you have laid out your argument in a very clear and clever way. I personally think that you were a lot more clever than clear. You introduce that topic and gives crudulence to the KT’s (which is actually an insult and shows that you have disowned us) by saying that the pittance that they send does help some of the immediate familial needs.
Aren’t all family needs immediate? In your piece I saw the need to play devil’s advocate but you also seemed to feel that once KT’s land abroad they inherit gold mines. As you are aware, those of us who were able to actually obtain degree’s (the same degree’s that we left to pursue and, incidentally, the one’s that you, our gracious hosts of our vacation want us to bring home..or is in take on vacation with us? Anyways, as you well know, those educations cost alot of money and for some of us, the ones who didnt inherit gold mines, those monies have to be paid back. I guess I can assume that after you got your piece of paper you would abscond back home and let the loans and grants default. In a way an attitude like that can be blamed on the decline that Kenya is experiencing-but I too digress.
Another fact that you seem to gloss over is the simple truth that getting a job in Kenya is more a matter of who knows you and not what it is that you know. With politics like that at play the question of how we can best build kenya becomes alot more complicated and convoluted than you make out. Only private enterprise can build a nation, any economist will tell you that. We know that our government is incompetant, but it should not be up to the government to take care of the people (that is the seed of developing a ‘welfare state’. The problem with private interprise is that you need large capital to get it started. Unless you are in govermnet in Kenya you will not see large capital (that is called a catch 22). So what do you do? ‘the hording of wealth is the beginning of capitalism. There is no wealth in Keya to horde (unless you are in govt. or your family already has it. So you are left with, imagine this, leaving the country to increase your opportunities. Hoarding the ‘pittance’ that you make, send some home so you will have a ‘home/house/shelter’ to return to. When you have a ‘nest egg’ fly home like a conquering hero, buy some land, invest in an entreprenuerial venture, and then spend the rest of your years trying to convince KR’s that your heart always beat red, black and green.
136. dreddlocked1
(5 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 4:52 am
excuse the typos, i was in a rush-western union is about to close
137. Ntwiga
(25 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 7:41 am
It’s taken me a bit of time (daily bread and all that jazz) but I’m here to rebut your rebuttal. It’s an excellent piece, and clearly a lot of thought and research has gone into it, and I’m sure you also enjoyed writing it as I did reading it
The return of Kenyans abroad would have a great impact on the Kenya economy:
Introducing numbers to prove this point is a double edged sword, because as we all know statistics can (and are) by both the pro and the anti of whatever debate of the day. So let’s take the facts from your research
- 85% of skilled Jamaicans are in the diaspora
- 20% of skilled Kenyans are in the diaspora
- Jamaica’s GDP is 350 or so % of that of Kenya
Would I be out of line in arguing that if Jamaica’s figure reduced to 40% that would lead to
- Increase in intellectual and human capital in Jamaica
- Increased likelihood of improved productivity in some sectors
- An even more increased GDP?
With regards to employment I agree with you. We do have a jobs problem. But my point was that this in itself should not stop you from coming back, especially if you are the entrepreneurial type, as someone pointed out to me. If entrepreneurship is a gene, and it is dominant in 10% or 5% of people, then I dare say entrepreneurs in returning from the diaspora would make quite a difference in the unfortunate 58% unemployment rate, don’t you think? Of course the locals also need to take up the very same mantle
Kenyans cannot participate in nation building from outside the country.
I will not belabour the point that money sent to Kenya is not useless. I agree with you to some extent: some people do indeed use the money for capital expenditure, chiefly construction and to some extent, starting up businesses. But I still think that most do not.
I also disagree completely that infrastructural development is best left to this mysterious thing called ‘Government’. Who is the government if not the people? How will we build quality infrastructure if the Government is not staffed by quality people?
Kenyans who leave to exploit opportunities outside the country are not patriotic since they do not personally participate in the day to day activities of building Kenya.
I won’t spend much time on this because I’ve said nothing remotely of the kind. As a matter of fact I agree entirely with you!
138. Imelda
(2 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 10:22 am
Lovely post. Well written. Well articulated
139. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 10:23 am
M, (pass over this one rapidly; it isn’t to you)
Er, just a small point of clarification (and by the way, 1. I have no shame about blogging on your blog and 2. I have no shame about blogging on your blog)
I am just wanting to know if the honourable “Magaidi” who intemperately exclaimed and I quote “(W.M. bit me)” is suggesting that I have already chewed on his person–no doubt a delicious experience–or is he, in a fit of tangled verb tenses, inviting me to do the same in the future, in which case of course it would have been ” (W.M bite me)”.
I have no problem with insults to me, but I really get concerned with insults which, in an excess of their distress value, are additionally grammatically unacceptable. I’m a teacher, you see, I can’t help noticing these things. And if you cannot write, you cannot ever say what it is you think you mean that you want to say. Something else always comes out.
Purely for the sake of the bodily integrity of the Honourable Mr. Magaidi, may I say now and for the future that my appetite really does not run to biting strangers, nor, in fact, have I ever found cannibalism particularly exciting. So he may rest assured. I never “bit” him, nor am I ever going to “bite” him, whichever he meant or might have been intending to mean, or even, was going to mean in the future.
In addition, I find that those who resort to crude insults ( I may be mistaken, but his aside appeared to me to be in this category) are merely lacking the capacity to express themselves in more effective ways. Truly, at the very least, the excellent Magaidi could have invited me to attempt to masticate on a particularly exciting part of his person. That might have been interesting for a short second or so. Finally, bloggers in general, at least not those I know, do not–however much they disagree–degenerate to name calling.
Instead, we pull out our thinking caps and present the most cogent arguments we can against whatever point is at issue, and also thrust our dagger points home in the purest linguistic acid we can command. But really, one does not, ever, resort to things like “mamako”, which, in effect was what the honourable and excellent Magaidi’s comment to me was. That is really very unblogger-ish and in fact, quite, um, not quite. I am wondering, purely in a sociological sense, whether the Hon. Magaidi is new to the Kenyan blogosphere or simply terminally ill-mannered?
Well! We boldly go!
W.M.
And yes, M, of course I can go and say things on my own blog. It’s just that I finished over there, so I came to see what was up over here. The ice-cream here is MUCH bettter than at my house…
W
140. Anonymous
(2 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Today (27 Jan 06) I came across an interesting article in the Daily Nation titled “Rescue efforts a study in incompetence” which was in reference to the recent collapsed building. It was a good article, raised the pertinent questions and reminded us that soon another disaster will occur and we’ll display our incredible incompetence… again.
WHen I got to the end, I saw the contributor’s name, etc & I quote:
“Mr Wairia, an expert in disaster management, resides in the United States. ”
I immediately recalled this blog entry and the debate. Indeed people like Mr Wairia should come home and setup the disaster management centre he quite rightly says we require… or even start his own business as a private Fire Brigade (by lobbying for privatisation of some of these functions).
My point is the article in the Nation and seeing the contributors details I think helps to illustrate the points that M has raised in this Blog entry. No?
THe article is at: http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=25&newsid=65977
Or just google for “Rescue efforts a study in incompetence”
141. cynic
(1 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
Hi M. Been reading your blog for some time now.Just wondering,After some time it gets to feeling like all the participants and you are a tight band of something?
142. magaidi
(42 Comments) | January 27th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
@WM, you really shouldn’t take things as literally as you seem to. Maybe..and this is a shot in the dark but (”It’s my shot damnit!”) the reason you seem to be at loggerheads with M in particularly regarding this post is because you seem to struggle trying to differentiate between what’s literal and what’s not?
Oh..?
You being a teacher means nothing to me, and I mean this in the nicest way. Education is not a chore, it doesn’t have to be in the classroom and the simple fact that you can “effectively use transitive verbs” doesn’t necessarily mean that your ideas are the best.
Perhaps you being the educator that you are, should formulate a way to see beyond the typos (which by the way I won’t apologize for and I hope whoever else you referred to doesn’t either) and take the message in the spirit that it was written? Maybe focus on the message and not the messenger?
You’ve dedicated a 5 paragraph response to a 3 word sentence. Aren’t you blowing things a tad outta proportion? Swali tu, and it comes with indemnity insurance so don’t bother elaborating.
We really should be talking about improving the economy and the impact of remittances home from abroad, not spell check and my abilities to express myself, no ma’am. Funny how you go about making assumptions about my person from a phrase, for which you took the literal meaning to, and make bogus conclusions.
143. I
(120 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 1:08 am
M i am going to say it for all of us who are thinking it..
if Kenya will change it will have to be changed by our generation, and a good percentage of or our generation is abroad.. so guess what, there is no reason for discussion, if change is going to be made, all the educated (and i mean educated) young Kenya’s abroad will have to pack their bags and come home. Period!
144. ishta
(1 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 2:25 am
for this UT (ugandan tourist), nothin is more appealing than a country with promise… i dont want to be a citizen af a country that’s 447 years old and has exhausted every cycle of growth possible (social, economic, political, weight-wise)! i want to come home once i have my degree, cuz uganda equals beginnings (and not just of the river nile either) and life (even though that life is often misdirected into chaos and rioting) and i want to be a part of the building of something great! maybe i’m an ignorant little optimist, i dont know, but its more than patirotism (which does taste ok, by the way) it’s the belief that God made me a Ugandan in this day and age, when so much change and growth is inevitable, for a reason!! there’s a purpose to our lives, us tourists, our oppurtunities (going to good schools, the apartments and goldfish) are not just so we can grow fat and give america even more money by joining weight watchers! my life has purpose, as i’m sure so do the lives of all of us!
145. cdub
(1 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 6:22 am
May I ask - if you are not advocating for anyone to sacrifice themselves by coming back, and are not crticisising anyone for taking the decision to live and work in the diaspora, what exactly is the point of your essay?
I ask cause if your essay was motivated by that one political conversation you had with a “KT”, then you are guilty of taking the views of one KENYAN (regardless of where they live or work), and extrapolating it into some abstract issue and then proceeding to convince people that there is a problem.
Having been in the disapora for just about seven years, I am yet to find a Kenyan who believes that by virtue of sending chum to his family and friends for mere consuption - he is in fact building his nation. I think if you spoke to most Kenyans living abroad you would find that they send money home primarily because they want to support those they love - nothing to do with the country.
In Australia, a professor from Melbourne University recently went public stating that Australia should restrict African immigration because Africans were stupid and violent. A pouplar cuurent affairs TV show run a phone-in poll after interviewing the proffessor; 98% of the respondents agreed with the professors views. Yes - we Kenyans in the diaspora are doing bloody well, but we are succeeding in societies that don’t want us, we are kicking goals in a team that doesn’t want to pass the ball to us.
If I had it my way ‘M’, I would rather be having a beer at Buffet Park (Hurlingham) having this conversation with you while waiting for the fourth round of FA Cup games to commence.
‘M’ - On a personal note, before you step up to criticise something, you have got to take the time to understand it.
And finally, I seem to remember that there is currently a property boom in Nairobi - especially in apartment blocks which you would have noticed if you looked around. Does this constitute the capital expenditure you keep refering too? Because apparently (and you can fact-check this statement if you wish), approximately 45% of that property boom is being funded by “KT’s”!
(I am actually quite disdainful of that terminology and would urge other Kenyans not to adopt it - all such terminologies do is serve to divide us even further.)
146. Mo
(8 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 2:06 pm
this might be selfish but i think everybody needs to think of number one in their lives and that’s themselves. I refuse to work in a country at the risk of starving or getting exploited all in the name of building kenya when my interests are better fulfilled in another state. Being a matyr only counts in legends and in the bible, in real life, you have to think of your future, sadly enough, it isnt always in the country of your birth and it is unfair for anybody who makes that choice to be faulted for it.
147. W.M.
(38 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
Well!
Having been put in my place by those for whom the term “irony” is probably a collective noun for getting the wrinkles out of clothes with hot appliances, I will now crawl into my completely discredited corner and lick my multiple intellectual, linguistic, theoretical and analytic wounds. I may never recover. Would someone dial the brain paramedics for me, please, as a last act of mercy?
148. Keguro
(33 Comments) | January 28th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Oh, wm, (another digression), please don’t withdraw into a corner or save your brilliance for your extra-fortunate students (you know, you could podcast them and give the rest of us a chance to learn for free! Si, you hook up your fellow country people like that!)
Wait? Podcast? Technology? As in, we can exploit emerging technologies to propel not simply discussion but material change, as illustrated by the good people at Global Voices.
How novel.
Professors can make their lectures available without having to make (what is it now, $50 a month in Kenya?). One problem solved. We in education are covered.
Now the rest of your business, law, economics, folks have to figure out how to do it.
I love technology.
(I realize nuance may be lost online, but, honestly, people, when you read M and WM, not sure what the inverted M in WM might mean, pay attention to TONE! If confused, look out for my podcast when I teach about tone in my poetry class.)
149. TeeJ
(28 Comments) | January 29th, 2006 at 6:19 am
Heh! Ok, Next topic…
150. Morpheus
(8 Comments) | January 30th, 2006 at 3:02 am
One thing that facinates me is how the developed countries are able to make something out of nothing.
We on the other hand are very talented in making nothing out of something.
Think about it.
151. Rugdoctor
(3 Comments) | January 30th, 2006 at 7:43 am
Why does that fascinate you? Everyone knows that guys in developing countries has brains on what we need to do to progress our nations but no-one is ready to sacrifice their personal luxuries to see to it that we get there. Ever wondered where all those brilliant ideas our politicians utter during campaign periods come from? They all have the right intentions but whenever they get there,…well they say power corrupts but even in the western world, G.W. Bush has proven to all that absolute power corrupts absolutely. What then do you think we can do about this poor human race of ours???
152. Adrian
(80 Comments) | January 31st, 2006 at 3:59 am
that one on kibaki not being able to drag is own shadow through a door is just WAY TOO FUNNY!!
true, being abroad and sending money doesn’t build our nation. and as you correctly point out, the money sent only helps short-term. but i’d like the education, experience and money gained abroad will help build the nation some day when the person returns home - especially the money…
really nice post (though a bit harsh
)
153. acolyte
(177 Comments) | January 31st, 2006 at 4:49 am
My my these comments get more and more interesting as time goes by.You have different groups here:
1.Those who agree with M whole heartedly
2.Those who agree with M but have some objections
3.Those who vehemently disagree and believe that there money is indeed helping
4.Those who vehemently disagree and say that they are out here because patriotism does not equal food
5.Those who disagree and say they are coming home someday
6.Those who disagree and say that since people back home are gnashing in business and employment why should they rush back to fail?
And the list goes on and on and on.
M I have decided to take a page from Victor’s book and take all these comments and compile them into a book with commentary from me.I will give you 5% out of courtesy.Send me your details….
154. mruhya
(59 Comments) | January 31st, 2006 at 12:21 pm
153 responses to this post as of 31st Jan, 12.25pm EAT? really struck a chord with this one M.
Provocative journalism i say. keep it up.
155. donworry
(54 Comments) | February 6th, 2006 at 2:00 pm
I was tidying my bosse’s desk last week when I came across this letter at the bottom of her drawer. I suspect that she meant to send it so I have bought a virtual stamp and sent it off to you.
“To M
Your article about cake making and the bit about Kenyans abroad in particular has brought much anger and dismay in da house. I am writing on behalf of a fuming, hard working lady who claims that your reporters are all twisted and really should have had the decency to check their facts before going to press.
Yes Bwana Ishmael Amothi has a daughter abroad and her name is Waithira; she don’t go for none of that neo classic style of spelling like some folks. Yes indeed she went and studied and attained a degree in medieval dance rituals and Business administration. She also did a short correspondence course on plant psychology purely for visa xtension purposes.
The institute that she currently works for may sound like nasa on the phone but your dim reporter should know that it is called The Nursing and Residential Care Service Association, NARCSA and they have many homes in all towns and cities.
I expect an apology.”
156. KBM
(1 Comments) | February 10th, 2006 at 6:17 am
Bravo M!! Your idea is very important to the right thinking Kenyans. If there is any Kenyan who does not like your sugggestion about nation building, its because of the following reasons:
1. Some of us have never been to school/college/university since they left Kenya to the West for furthjer studies
2.They have no required skills to enable them succeed in Kenya
3. They will be a liability to the country because they have nothing to offer.
4. They are hiding in the west and are KTs who are liars. They have non-existent occupations while they are cleaning old women in nursing homes for years averaging 10years.
5.Basically they have nothing to bring back to KENYA IN TERMS OF EXPERIENCE AND GLOBAL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY WORK 24*7 to eke a living
6. For those Kenyans in the diaspora that have worked hard and have gained professional experience, Kenya needs you. Kenya is the next frontier.
157. sikoture
(2 Comments) | February 14th, 2006 at 4:41 am
Please do refer to this to answer your question:
http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=65&newsid=67139
As Kenyans abroad remit Sh50bn, shilling gains new ground
Story by GEOFFREY IRUNGU
Publication Date: 02/14/2006
Foreign currency sent home by Kenyans living abroad has been helping to shore up the Shilling.
According to information made available by the Central Bank of Kenya, up to Sh50 billion ($700 million) is remitted to Kenya annually.
The money has not only helped lift the local currency, but has also spurred activity in the property market. Buying of houses and construction of new buildings have received a boost from monies remitted to Kenya in recent times.
Of course, the building and construction boom has also been driven by lower mortgage interest rates, and higher budget allocations to road construction and rehabilitation in the 2005/06 financial year.
Not surprisingly, among the other sectors that have benefited from this is the cement industry, with consumption rising by 7.9 per cent in the first ten months of 2005 to nearly 1.2 million tonnes.
Better economic environment
With five per cent of the GDP being sent back by Kenyans in the diaspora, it is clear they have made a sizeable contribution to economic growth in recent years. The Kenya Club, an organisation of Kenyan professionals and investors residing in Britain, said last September that there were well over two million Kenyans abroad, including 130,000 in the UK itself. The veracity of the figures notwithstanding, it is true that the economic circumstances of those who opt to reside abroad is sometimes better than that of those they live behind.
Late last year, the Club said: “It is a fact that we are a vital source of revenue to our country, through the remittance of foreign currency to our families and towards development projects.”
Kenya Club even estimated the annual remittances to be actually higher than what is given by the Central Bank of Kenya. Its annual bank survey for Kenyans abroad showed that they send back not less $1 billion (Sh71 billion) annually, while those in the UK alone remit Sh50 billion annually. The organisation said that when informal remittance mechanisms are taken into account the amount more than doubles official flows.
Reliable infrastructure
The money sent home by Kenyans abroad could be even more, were it not for the fact that expensive transfer charges hinder the sending of more money home.
The Government set up an informal facilitation committee to help them send money at affordable rates. However, when they Kenya Club made enquiries on the progress of its work last year, the Central Bank revealed that there was little movement, despite several meetings among the organisations concerned. Some Kenyans abroad even suggest that a possible solution to remitting money home would be the establishment of a Kenyan Bank in the UK, or the setting up of a reliable information and communication technology infrastructure.
Kenyans may be sending dollars back home and helping keep the local currency strong, but local exporters have to live with a strong shilling and its negative consequences. Horticultural exporters have especially been vocal against the Shilling’s appreciation, unlike importers who are content to bask in the luck that recent developments have brought to their business.
At a workshop on financing the tourism sector last week, the chief executive of the Nairobi Stock Exchange, Chris Mwebesa, said Kenyans living abroad invested at least Sh10 billion in 2004 in the stock market.
He said that the money even had an impact on the local currency. The Central Bank, however, says that apart from the estimates, the data given about remittances are not reliable. The Bank is also reluctant to admit that the remittances have had an impact on the Shilling.
It notes that organised repatriations of funds boost domestic foreign exchange holdings and facilitate transmission of funds by Kenyans abroad at more competitive pricing.
Indeed, foreign exchange reserves have been growing. Those held by the banking system rose to $2.446 billion at the end of September 2005, from $1.906 billion at the end of September 2004. Foreign currency deposits held locally by residents increased to $1.14 billion at the end of September 2005, from $881 million at the end of September 2004.
Despite the contribution to growth that Kenyans living and working abroad make to the country, facilities for sending money home are limited. Indeed, it seems most of the money is sent through Western Union, but there seems to be a variety of other informal ways that bypass the formal banking system.
Foreign accounts
When Kenya Club sought to establish the best banking facilities available for Kenyans living in the diaspora, it found out that most would prefer a bank account to manage financial obligations in Kenya, rather than the ad-hoc arrangements available to them.
The survey also noted that banks are not catering for the needs of the majority of Kenyans abroad, pointing out that most of the banks contacted lacked the infrastructure to manage foreign-owned bank accounts from abroad, did not offer internet banking services, and expected customers to operate bank accounts by post, or even face to face. Some banks have adopted some form of Internet banking since the survey, but the general situation remains unchanged.
The Kenya Club also found out that bank charges varied greatly, with no standard rates or charges. Some banks charged five to 10 times as much as the cheaper ones for the same service. Most charge for all manners of services, including monthly service charges, which are not the norm for Kenyans in the diaspora.
However, the survey also highlighted some banks that had by then enabled Kenyans to use their services to send money home, including Commercial Bank of Africa and National Industrial Credit (NIC) Bank. Others are now even offering mortgage finance for Kenyans abroad.
“Banks still have a long way to go to redress the balance and ensure that foreign currency remittances are channelled in the most effective way, we hope the Kenya Club Banking survey will create a step-change,” said Sam Manjau, Kenya Club’s finance director, at the time of the survey.
158. Steve Ntwiga Mugiri » Blog Archive » The diaspora, “nation building” and a pound of flesh.
(No Comments) | February 14th, 2006 at 10:02 am
[...] About 2 weeks ago, I posted a rebuttal to a post by M over at thinkersroom about Kenyans in the diaspora and their contribution to nation building. [...]
159. magaidi.com » A Healthy Debate
(No Comments) | February 28th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
[...] This is an observation I’ve had in the past and came to realize fully on Thinker’s piece on having a cake and eating it – everyone agreed and danced around the bush until one voice lamented, an emphatic NO! that sent the piece to ‘KBW Hall of Fame’ if we have one. I think we need to stop ‘pussy footing’ and agree to disagree. Nothing against those who just want to tow the line and belong in a ‘clique’. If we intend to have healthy debate (and civil for that matter), we have to come out of our collective cocoons and say exactly what we have on our minds. Otherwise as Ben Carson aptly put it: “If two people agree all the time, it has been my opinion that one of these people is probably not needed” [...]
160. tHiNkEr’S rOoM » Blog Archive » Deja Vu
(No Comments) | March 13th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
[...] 2) Feeling one gets when one reads Man Talk immediately after reading Having Cake And Eating It I don’t mind creative license but can’t cats at least change the wording?!! [...]
161. mudskippah
(7 Comments) | March 16th, 2006 at 6:11 pm
Pala-giarism, is that the rat I’m smelling? Who would have thought!
162. mudskippah
(7 Comments) | March 16th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Pavlov must be dead, but maybe his ghost still rings a bell.
163. Rim
(1 Comments) | March 19th, 2006 at 8:07 pm
Great post M, was cool to read through all these comments…
I’m Tunisian and if you replace Kenya by Tunisia, USA and UK by France and Italy, you’ll find out that we are living more or less the same situation. The difference is that since some events (9-11, attacks in London, migration laws in France), many Tunisians are leading back home, adding many fiscal adavantages and targetted services offered by the gov to skilled expatriates to start their own busineses here. Of course the situation i s not perfect and many of us are still dreaming to “fly out” but building Kenya (Tunisia, Africa, etc) must be a joint will between the diaspora and the country of origin.
it’s very difficult to leave your cosy flat in NYC, your super rewarding working environment, the daily challenges that gives a taste to your life and go back somewhere where we don’t value your skills and qualifications (happened to a Tunisian professor who used to teach in UCBerkley) and where nothing is meant to keep you there beyond any other consideration of high wages and benifits.
164. Steve Ntwiga Mugiri » Blog Archive » musical link: Maroon Commandos - Charonyi (ni wasi)
(No Comments) | May 5th, 2006 at 9:45 am
[...] The group enjoyed an all time high in 1977 with the hit “Charoni - Ni Wasi” that I have posted here for your listening pleasure. I have to let you know however that to me - and many others I am sure - Maroon Commandos is all about “Amuka Kumekucha“, that instant early 80’s (I think 1981) hit that tell everyone to get their “behinds” out bed or out of wherever, sign up for “Patriotism 101” and go out and build the nation - basically M’s message to you KTs out there. [...]
165. nu2dis
(1 Comments) | July 3rd, 2006 at 9:42 pm
Wow, was that passionate or what? Very well written piece.
166. Toiyoi
(1 Comments) | August 3rd, 2006 at 7:21 pm
You know the reason why this happens?
(i) Africans are base people, leaving a 19th century mindest in this 21st century
(ii)Africans are not samrt people: presented with problems, they run away, not solve them
(iii) Africans have no sense of self worh: no matter how much they protest, they believe the white man has solutions to all his problems: if not, how come you go west?
(iv) Africans have a “give me give me” mentality: blames the governments for not creating jobs, and seeks what someone else has created, instead of creating one.
(v) Africans are cowards: seek comfort in the west, instead of swating out a solution home
(vi) Africans are dim: they cannot realise that the mzungu is not his bossom buddy.
If the above is not true, i pray, do tell, what ails Africa?
167. Free Speech, Literally at Gathunuku
(No Comments) | October 21st, 2006 at 12:05 am
[...] Some (read diaspora KTs) may already know about flat rate phone services. I’m talking about the kind where they charge a fixed fee (really low, about £10/$10 per month) and include unlimited landline calls. Of course many haven’t got a clue why telcos have become this generous with their service offerings and honestly end-users shouldn’t care. [...]
168. TECHNICIAN
(1 Comments) | December 10th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
What the blog writer is saying is “STOP THE DELUSION!!”
As is obvious, nobody can force the diaspora Kenyans to come back home and and build the country, but they must realize what they are doing is irrelevant in the bigger picture. Besides how do they think the high rises, the road networks and superior technological advances in US and Europe were made. By research, dedication, investment etc NOT by somebody wiring money every month!
Thinker is right, you cannot have your cake and eat it!! This problem would be solved by requiring all who proceed to emigrate for flimsy reasons to leave their national identity and citizenship at the door. Proceed to live “feed yourself” and “take care of immediate needs”. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
This is not an issue of patriotism, it is an issue of common sense! An analogy: if you spend all your time cleaning other people’s houses, using extraordinary “next generation” cleaning agents, then neglecting your own house, then complain that nothing is getting done in your own house!! Who do you think will do it?? Jeez!! If it is a problem of technology and resources, complaining about using “outdated” cleanign agents will not help, since you have been exposed to these fancy Western gadgets and technology, apply the same in your own house.
Now extrapolate this situation to whatever sector is of interest to you, the economy, technology, academia etc. The Kenyans who have studied abroad are in a position of great advantage in that they have been exposed first hand to the mechanisms in the Western commerce and industry and if motivated enough can reproduce this knowledge and creativity in their home turf.
The comment(s) equating this mass emigration of Kenyans (for flimsy reasons) to foreign (usually Western countries) to rural-urban migration is incorrect. It is apples and oranges. The relatives one has in Siaya, Kerugoya or Mtwapa are all citizens of Kenya, any economic or structural growth benefits them, albeit not immediately. The gains and advancements made in research, technology etc done in foreign countries using their resources are the property of those sovereign countries.
People just need to stop the delusion. The masses will continue to go abroad, some will achieve great heights in their careers, others will be doing low level jobs for decades on end. Others still will come back home, secure excellent jobs in MNC, parastatals and private companies, and yet others will come back home, find their skills are not applicable and suffer massive frustration. All these are possible outcomes. Nothing in life is a guarantee. However, the delusion must stop. Wiring funds from abroad at regular intervals is NOT building the country.
Final thought: There is a vicious cycle set in place in Kenya. You have all seen/heard/met the token expatriate high level manager in many companies. Some are qualified, others grossly underqualified. I do believe, with the exception of some multinational companies and any underhanded politics aside, there was at some point a shortage of native Kenyans with the requisite skills/experience/education in some sectors. However, that was then, this is now, with graduates from both local schools and those abroad having advanced degrees in fields like Engineering and IT, there is no excuse not to hire local. BUT with all the good qualified folks running away, what option do they have but…..drum roll please…bring in yet another expat.
What happens next, pockets of students and grads in America, Europe and Asia whine on end about their employment prospects back in Kenya. How only foreigners get the top level juicy jobs. It is a vicious cycle people. Only we can stop it.
So either come back home, roll up your sleeves and get to work or stay wherever you are, wire back your weekly/monthly/annual remittance but do not expect a collective show of gratitude and appreciation from Kenya and Kenyans as a whole.
169. Billion Dollar KTs at Gathunuku
(No Comments) | December 11th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
[...] The one thing that was very visible was the enthusiasm by most KTs to invest back home. Maybe that comment by Mutumia on the now famous post is indeed true; ‘KT-ing’ and ‘nation building’ need not be mutually exclusive. With the debate that is going on about the shortage of investment opportunities over at this post and this other one, I am of the opinion that investment professionals have their work cut out. There’s a glut of capital [KT remittances, increased bank liquidity and first time investors] and obviously many opportunities. These two factors are only asking for a rendezvous and everyone is happy. [...]
170. KANITHO-M's fan!
(1 Comments) | December 27th, 2006 at 4:55 am
Happy Holidays Wakenya!
Quotable quotes of 2006 by M: 1)Relax a little. Smell the oxygen.hahaha! 2)Relax. Take deep breaths.hehehe!…this made my day..
Amongst all the mishales(na mikukis) flying swiftly across the globe on this blog, some soundly landing with deposits of real topical issues,while others seemed to aim and somehow land amiss, it has all made for not only food for thought but a hearty gooood laugh!
Thanks for allowing the diasporians to express their heartfelt maonis on our beloved HOMELAND!
Your are a Top man!
Insipirational poem I came across;
“If you think you are beaten, you are,
If you think you dare not, you don’t.
If you like to win but you think you can’t,
It is almost certain you won’t.
“If you think you’ll lose, you’re lost,
For out in the world we find,
Success begins with a fellow’s will-
It’s all in the state of mind.
“If you think you are outclassed, you are,
You’ve got to think high to rise,
You’ve got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize
“Life’s battles don’t always go
To the stronger or faster (wo)man,
But soon or later the man who wins
Is the (wo)man WHO THINKS HE/SHE CAN!”
171. Joshua
(5 Comments) | April 25th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
It is kinda late to be reading and commenting on this article but it is absolutely brilliant. Can I publish it?
I am in the States but I think anyone who sends money back home to support people there does nothing for the economy. As a matter of fact, it is an insult for the government to be trumpeting the KShs 65 Billion being sent from the Diaspora. You mean to tell me you have done such a bad job in building the economy that remittances are the leading source of foreign exchange in the country?
I think we need to have programs where actual solutions such as helping families gain real wealth through entrepreneurship or investments or the like. This will build the economy while providing families with real sources of income. To keep sending money is to keep training people to rely on you for ever. The only way to solve our problems and progress is solve the root cause of sending money - poverty. That by the way is solved by giving the poor a chance to make their OWN money, not yours.
172. Mwangi - the Displaced African
(50 Comments) | March 11th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Truer words were never spoken!
173. Report: Mistakes Overseas Students and Migrants Make and Just Pay With Credit!! » The Displaced African
(No Comments) | March 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
[...] am starting to feel like my blog is redundant when I read articles such as these from M that pretty much say exactly what I want to say, exactly the way I want to say [...]