Comments on: Of Censorship http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/ Unique - just like everyone else. Manufactured and bottled in Kenya Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mwara http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-2/#comment-19913 Mwara Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:56:46 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-19913 Hear,hear! Once I could stop laughing hard enough to carry on reading. Also I salute your taste(!) in reading matter. Hear,hear! Once I could stop laughing hard enough to carry on reading. Also I salute your taste(!) in reading matter.

]]> By: Student T http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-2/#comment-13222 Student T Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:21:01 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-13222 Why cant we get along? We are at crossroads and we need to move to a higher level. Peace, Love & Harmony. Why cant we get along? We are at crossroads and we need to move to a higher level.
Peace, Love & Harmony.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kenyan Blogosphere: Debate over social responsibility, freedom of speech, and censorship http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-13163 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kenyan Blogosphere: Debate over social responsibility, freedom of speech, and censorship Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:57:45 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-13163 [...] Thinker’s Room, who noted that the debate was “generating more heat than light,” tried to summarize the events leading to the removal and the subsequent hot debate involving bloggers and readers: From what I can gather, the facts are as follows: • Acolyte put up a post on his blog • Some people objected to the content of the blog • Acolyte received a mail informing him that he had been taken off the KBW aggregator due to his post • The KBW admin team put up a post clarifying grounds from expulsion from the aggregator • Acolyte denies that this was the reason for which he was expelled • One of the Admin put up a post further clarifying that Acolyte had not in fact been removed from KBW - he had only been removed from the aggregator [...] [...] Thinker’s Room, who noted that the debate was “generating more heat than light,” tried to summarize the events leading to the removal and the subsequent hot debate involving bloggers and readers: From what I can gather, the facts are as follows: • Acolyte put up a post on his blog • Some people objected to the content of the blog • Acolyte received a mail informing him that he had been taken off the KBW aggregator due to his post • The KBW admin team put up a post clarifying grounds from expulsion from the aggregator • Acolyte denies that this was the reason for which he was expelled • One of the Admin put up a post further clarifying that Acolyte had not in fact been removed from KBW – he had only been removed from the aggregator [...]

]]> By: Jomo Jnr http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12888 Jomo Jnr Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:55:15 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12888 KBW ring should be renamed Old Housewives Club. Everyone seems embroiled in a bitter dispute, with the top brass competing to be chairlady of the hag’s guild. You should stick to sewing and knitting sessions and an occasional round of Friday night Bingo rather than blogging. KBW ring should be renamed Old Housewives Club. Everyone seems embroiled in a bitter dispute, with the top brass competing to be chairlady of the hag’s guild. You should stick to sewing and knitting sessions and an occasional round of Friday night Bingo rather than blogging.

]]> By: uncle joe http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12856 uncle joe Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:20:07 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12856 i can see that this whole issue has turned into a low intensity fight with rela's and sychophants comming out of the woodwork to insult people simply because they pointed out at injustices. <div class="commentary">=)) You know? Some cats need to just relax and take a load off</div> i can see that this whole issue has turned into a low intensity fight with rela’s and sychophants comming out of the woodwork to insult people simply because they pointed out at injustices.

=)) You know? Some cats need to just relax and take a load off
]]> By: blakblad http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12840 blakblad Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:20:56 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12840 This post is so silly where do you even begin? It is clear that that thinker did not live up to his name on this one. Censorship because you do not appear on an aggregator? When the rss feed in question is still available to anyone who wants it? When the blog in question is still up? When the blogger is still free to write what he wants? Where is the censorship? thinker, think. <div class="commentary">And I suggest you take your own advice and think as well. You of all people should know -- what do you call when an editor tells a journalist that he is free to write, and he is free to use his computer and notebook but his stories will never be published?</div> As for aco, the man is so dumb he can not even read a post he needs thinker to read it for him? Yes I know society is meant to protect the weakest amongst us and acolyte as he admitted above, must be amongst the mentally weak if he can not read a simple blog post. Remember this is the same aco who wanted to kill cripples (in yet another post he took down in embarrassment) maybe we should kill him for his lack of mental fortitude. And the many of you who seem to have serious problems with KBW and the admin team, many of you who seem to have problems with mental, why do you not just leave KBW? It does not put any food on your tables does it? If KBW is a censorship body then start your own ring it can not be that hard can it if mental can do it. Or at the very least leave thinker alone and go and tell mental direct. Why do you hide here instead of emailing mental? KBW supported mzalendo and other Kenyan online projects, yet all we hear are bad things about it. I heard about mzalendo from KBW. KenyaOnline got a email from KBW with Mzalendo and thinker knows this. He will never say anything good about KBW admin. Look in his archives, all he does is moan about the lack of support yet the group that support him get nothing but hate from him. No wonder Kenyans are reluctant to engage with his pet project. I have never heard Kipepeo say anything good about kbw yet she comes hear to moan about it? What other group connects Kenyans in the shags of Finland to other Kenyans? <div class="commentary">My friend clearly you do not have the <strong>faintest </strong>idea of what you are talking about. None whatsoever. You are in <strong>NO POSITION</strong> to know who has supported or supports Mzalendo. You are in no position to pontificate to me who I should be thanking. None whatsoever. So please, spare me your sycophancy!</div> They say you can judge a man or woman by their friends and enemies. Joe is an open enemy of kbw. Aco is an open enemy of kbw mocha is a closet enemy. Irena is an open enemy. Joe, aco, irena, mocha, which one of you would follow anyone of those anywhere? <div class="commentary">Take your own advice and take your issues to the people you have named. And by the way, I never got the memo. Who died and appointed you the online police? Oh, and one more thing. It was a nice try but you'd score more points if you didn't (unsuccessfully) hide behind your anonymity. When you gather the guts to stand by your words and defend some of your ludicrously preposterous allegations, let me know</div> This post is so silly where do you even begin? It is clear that that thinker did not live up to his name on this one. Censorship because you do not appear on an aggregator? When the rss feed in question is still available to anyone who wants it? When the blog in question is still up? When the blogger is still free to write what he wants? Where is the censorship? thinker, think.

And I suggest you take your own advice and think as well. You of all people should know — what do you call when an editor tells a journalist that he is free to write, and he is free to use his computer and notebook but his stories will never be published?

As for aco, the man is so dumb he can not even read a post he needs thinker to read it for him? Yes I know society is meant to protect the weakest amongst us and acolyte as he admitted above, must be amongst the mentally weak if he can not read a simple blog post. Remember this is the same aco who wanted to kill cripples (in yet another post he took down in embarrassment) maybe we should kill him for his lack of mental fortitude.

And the many of you who seem to have serious problems with KBW and the admin team, many of you who seem to have problems with mental, why do you not just leave KBW? It does not put any food on your tables does it? If KBW is a censorship body then start your own ring it can not be that hard can it if mental can do it. Or at the very least leave thinker alone and go and tell mental direct. Why do you hide here instead of emailing mental?

KBW supported mzalendo and other Kenyan online projects, yet all we hear are bad things about it. I heard about mzalendo from KBW. KenyaOnline got a email from KBW with Mzalendo and thinker knows this. He will never say anything good about KBW admin. Look in his archives, all he does is moan about the lack of support yet the group that support him get nothing but hate from him. No wonder Kenyans are reluctant to engage with his pet project. I have never heard Kipepeo say anything good about kbw yet she comes hear to moan about it? What other group connects Kenyans in the shags of Finland to other Kenyans?

My friend clearly you do not have the faintest idea of what you are talking about. None whatsoever. You are in NO POSITION to know who has supported or supports Mzalendo. You are in no position to pontificate to me who I should be thanking. None whatsoever. So please, spare me your sycophancy!

They say you can judge a man or woman by their friends and enemies. Joe is an open enemy of kbw. Aco is an open enemy of kbw mocha is a closet enemy. Irena is an open enemy. Joe, aco, irena, mocha, which one of you would follow anyone of those anywhere?

Take your own advice and take your issues to the people you have named. And by the way, I never got the memo. Who died and appointed you the online police?

Oh, and one more thing. It was a nice try but you’d score more points if you didn’t (unsuccessfully) hide behind your anonymity. When you gather the guts to stand by your words and defend some of your ludicrously preposterous allegations, let me know

]]> By: Jomo Jnr http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12807 Jomo Jnr Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:38:10 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12807 It is now clear that Mr Daudi Were suffers from a chronic mental condition as reflected by his actions and writings. Now that he is in Kenya, he might want to check himself into Mathare Hospital. More than ever, he now needs our help, support and prayers. Let us not beat him while he is down as it is un-African. To Mr Were, I say, seek psychiatric help. It is now clear that Mr Daudi Were suffers from a chronic mental condition as reflected by his actions and writings. Now that he is in Kenya, he might want to check himself into Mathare Hospital. More than ever, he now needs our help, support and prayers. Let us not beat him while he is down as it is un-African. To Mr Were, I say, seek psychiatric help.

]]> By: Digz Guy http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12719 Digz Guy Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:03:33 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12719 I like the way we try and say this is not about personalities! Thinker's post was about personalities and a pattern of behaviour Mental's post was too! So let's not hid behind neutrality here - that would be a convenient facade! <div class="commentary">And where did I say I am neutral? I strongly and completely disagree with the action that was taken against Acolyte. Completely</div> Personal attacks are being made on people's character or conduct, and as one would expect there are responses. I may not agree with my 'rela' Mental on many issues but on this one - I'm with you bro! <div class="commentary">=)) Just curious: what relevance is the fact that he is your rela? I hope you meant it figuratively because otherwise it knocks much of the wind out of your argument</div> Rumour-mongering is rife - not much can be done about that. Strive for quality and let the chips fall where they will! My two cents. I like the way we try and say this is not about personalities!
Thinker’s post was about personalities and a pattern of behaviour
Mental’s post was too!

So let’s not hid behind neutrality here – that would be a convenient facade!

And where did I say I am neutral? I strongly and completely disagree with the action that was taken against Acolyte. Completely

Personal attacks are being made on people’s character or conduct, and as one would expect there are responses.
I may not agree with my ‘rela’ Mental on many issues but on this one – I’m with you bro!

=)) Just curious: what relevance is the fact that he is your rela? I hope you meant it figuratively because otherwise it knocks much of the wind out of your argument

Rumour-mongering is rife – not much can be done about that.
Strive for quality and let the chips fall where they will!
My two cents.

]]> By: donworry http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12619 donworry Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:05:23 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12619 Sorry, it seems I lost my point in the heat of excitement. I really wanted to say: there is no such thing as bad publicity perhaps someone could point me in the direction of the "offending article" just purely for research, you understand. donworry@ntlworld.com Sorry, it seems I lost my point in the heat of excitement. I really wanted to say: there is no such thing as bad publicity perhaps someone could point me in the direction of the “offending article” just purely for research, you understand.

donworry@ntlworld.com

]]> By: donworry http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-12618 donworry Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:01:50 +0000 http://www.thinkersroom.com/blog/2006/10/of-censorship/#comment-12618 The light and the heat and the passion of debate. This is the sign of a vibrant blogging community. Those in charge of administering such a concept have a huge responsibility not only to all of us here and the wider connected world but even beyond. The current trend is that the world of blogging is attracting a lot of attention from the traditional media outlets and hardly a day goes by without newspaper X or Radio station Y carrying an interview with a familiar blogger. Let us not allow differences to destroy what you have dedicated great individual and collective resourcefelness to build. KBW is something to be proud of. The hardworking Team must know that their efforts are appreciated. They must also know that their labour of love will amount to very little if the general community feel that transparency has been sacrificed in the drive for greater efficiency: I guess its worth recalling that the Titanic was the cutting edge modern ship of her time and was built by the professionals at the world famous Belfast shipyard. Noah was a jua-kali carpenter when he built the Ark...... The light and the heat and the passion of debate. This is the sign of a vibrant blogging community. Those in charge of administering such a concept have a huge responsibility not only to all of us here and the wider connected world but even beyond. The current trend is that the world of blogging is attracting a lot of attention from the traditional media outlets and hardly a day goes by without newspaper X or Radio station Y carrying an interview with a familiar blogger. Let us not allow differences to destroy what you have dedicated great individual and collective resourcefelness to build.

KBW is something to be proud of. The hardworking Team must know that their efforts are appreciated. They must also know that their labour of love will amount to very little if the general community feel that transparency has been sacrificed in the drive for greater efficiency:

I guess its worth recalling that the Titanic was the cutting edge modern ship of her time and was built by the professionals at the world famous Belfast shipyard. Noah was a jua-kali carpenter when he built the Ark……

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