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Posted January 17th, 2008 in Hubbub by M

Cops Gone Crazy

Yesterday on the news I watched with stunned amazement as a police officer in full combat gear leveled his rifle and shot two men. He then rushed over to them kicked them a number of times in the ribs and then rushed away with the air of a man with urgently pressing business elsewhere. The men subsequently died.

What can I say? Really.

  • http://haidhuru.blogsome.com/ Mutumia

    That footage is scandalous. I am appalled and shocked and dismayed. Words fail me.

  • alexcia

    May is recommend this movie on South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission hearings called “In My Country” starring Samuel L. Jackson and Juliette Binoche.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_My_Country

  • http://mywordsonly.blogspot.com acolyte

    I was shocked and appalled to say the least! From what I saw these two men did not have molotov cocktails, stones or machetes in their hands. Just rubbery faces. I guess the shoot to kill policy is in force, anything that moves and isn’t in police uniform is fair game at this point seems to be the rule.
    Sadder still the fact that the victims are slum dwellers will make sure they die faceless.
    As for the twins, who knows their folk must have hidden their birth details from them but still, it’s gross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/ Chrenyan

    If only as chilling a video on the senseless violence and murder of Kenyan citizens by other Kenyan citizens was available to lend this clip balance.

  • http://seasonsandreasons.wordpress.com seasonsandreasons

    I have not seen the footage as yet. Slow internet and all. I will catch up with the news when back home but I have seen it mentioned in many blogs.

    As for those twins…. maybe the dates they were given by their adoptive parents were also different

  • http://udi-m.blogspot.com udi

    As much as I can say that I am appalled, I also seem to be lacking sympathy for people being used to cause chaos and destruction when their slave masters earn 800k a month and whose kids are safely being protected in mansions in Karen, Runda, Muthaiga etc. I am yet to see Fidel Odinga, Mudavadis kids, Najibs kids or any ODM pentagons kids. I am just seeing the poor people being used to cause chaos for a fight in which even if they win, the prize will be given to the slave masters.

    As for the cops, even without giving them an order to kill, those guys are frustrated having to perform crowd control duties for the last 3 weeks. Fuk it. even me I would be trigger happy when every morning, I am having to go to work to prevent rallies that dont even concern me.

    By the way, ebu no one should misquote me and say I am advocating for the killings. I am just saying that if you are a fool for being used to go loot and destroy, then I cant feel mercy for you when you meet your demise. I shed my tears for the kids burnt in a church. I am not shedding any more for hooligans

  • msaniixl

    Excessive use of force…and disgusting..after you shoot the man you kick him? why to make sure he is dead?

    I mean i could see if they guy had weapon of some sort. But just making funny faces?

  • http://amerucan.wordpress.com aMERUcan

    come on udi,
    stand by your word.
    dont make a harsh statement then put a disclaimer.
    guys were shot, whether or not the cop was frustrated it doesnt mater.
    That kind of argument is where we begin to go wrong as a country..”its wrong but…..etc”
    That is where we start to loose it.
    Loss of life is just that that, loss of life.It cant be right in any way.
    cheers

  • http://tallb.wordpress.com aegeus

    i watched that in utter shock on the the news last night. is that what human life has been reduced to?

  • abelian

    I have just seen this now! What the F**k is wrong with this goverment? , I am sorry for the expletives but that is the only word I could muster after seeing this.

    A man snuff two lives and then walks away calmly

    Who will save us from this arrogant bunch of megalomaniacs

  • Vedec

    There is absolutely no way you can justify the killing of unarmed citizens ( i don’t care whether you call them rioters or protesters) by a battalion of highly trained cops with sophisticated assault rifles! That is a serious outrage and I am appalled that a couple of people here have the audacity to even attempt to make it look ok. Injustices should be judged on their individual merits. Emotions tend to cloud reason resulting in irrational action (my sympathies to those who’ve lost loved ones in the recent chaos) but two wrongs don’t make a right. If the govt. decides to indiscriminately take blanket action on all acts of lawlessness, then the constitution serves no purpose at all, and they (govt.) could as well declare Kenya a police state.

  • Kenyangal

    After going through the high and lows of the political situation in Kenya I am at the point whereby I hold both Raila and Kibaki responsible for the deaths of the 600+ kenyans and for the cruel death of the poor guy in a black shirt. Kenyans should think of ways to look out for each other and let politicians fight their own battles.

  • Liz

    Our poor Kenya! Have we all gone mad? One thing that seem obvious is that the counting of votes was done dishonestly. How is that the fault of the prople who simply cast their votes, for whatever politician? Luos, Kikuyus, police, all of us – maybe the answer is to join together (PEACEFULLY) to insist on a recount? We surely want this land governed by honest men and women who have the courage to face truth. We are a democracy. That means having the freedom to cast your vote whichever way you choose, the right to have your vote counted fairly, and the responsibility to abide by the outcome. Let’s get it together. Harambee, anyone?

  • http://doques.wordpress.com doques

    This is unbelievable! How on earth can you justify this people ? This kind of barbaric killings will not break the will of the people as a matter of fact it will harden their resolve.

  • kanyoni

    WEll, it’s all right to take the righteous indignation road when the police kill protesters, but what do you want them to do instead? Seriously, give alternatives to the present methods of dealing with these Interahamwe wannabes. Why was there not a word said against these people when they Combed Rift Valley and Kisumu for innocent Kikuyus to Kill? Was it because you assumed that they deserved to die for their crime of being from the same tribe as Kibaki? If you are protesting injustice, then you must acknowledge that these people aren’t as innocent as you proclaim!

  • I

    If that so called cop hadnt been caught on tape i would have call every one a liar.. but damn!! talk about trigger happy!!
    And can we please see these politicians who are calling for rallies at the rallies!!
    votes were counted votes were rigged can Kenya please move on to something else?!!? Dec 27th will NOT come back.. ever…..

  • udi

    Amerucan- Please read my comment carefully. I didnt say the guy in the film was a looter. I talked about the people who are using this mass protests to engage in wanton looting for their self gratification. Those are the ones I have no sympathy with for being shot.

    As for the extra-judicial killings, I think Ali done finally lost his mind. Even during Moi’s time, nothing like this happened. We are now witnessing the making of a Hitler/Amin

  • abelian

    Toiyoi,

    stop spreading such rumours, we who know better people are the only thing Kenya’s got

  • abelian

    Toiyoi,

    So who killed the Kikuyu’s KamJesh and Taleban trained in Sudan? Stop spreading such rumours, we who know better are the only thing Kenya’s got.

  • http://toiyoi.wordpress.com toiyoi

    @abelian

    I said it is wrong to kill anyone without reason ( kikuyu or not ). But i am not blind to the evil the government is carrying out. Are these events not plain enough for all not blinded by “association” to see? Is it acceptable to you, abelian?

    And how do you know they are just rumours?

  • alexcia

    Udi and all those trying to link this with other incidents of violence.
    The police failed in their duty to protect kenyan lives in Eldoret [stike 1].
    How should they remedy this? You would think they would quickly appoint a police task force and special prosecuter to investigate and prosecute ALL those involved in the eldoret killings [strike 2]

    Instead they compound on their failure by moving a couple of hundred miles north and shoot at unarmed jesters [strike 3].

    Condemining the violence is not enough, please ask these usurper to step aside

  • Vedec

    Kanyoni – Why are you playing the tribal card?!! The news clip says nothing about the victim’s tribes, hell, they may even be kikuyu, who knows?!!! It’s not a tribal issue but about the police executing unarmed protesters…PERIOD! That is barbaric and a travesty of justice. I reiterate (from above), two wrongs do not make a right. By the way, don’t imagine that only non-kikuyus are protesting the flawed elections. FYI, some kikuyus voted for the opposition (and some Luo’s too voted for Kibaki) and not all of them are of the school of thought that the presidency belongs to the tribe. Some Kenyans are beyond such pettiness. The kikuyus who feel that the flawed elections are worth protesting about are out on the streets like any other protester. note that there is a difference between hooliganism and peaceful protests turned chaotic thanks to the police. Look at the news clip at it’s face value and stop trivializing such a disturbing trend of things, and DO leave Kikuyus out of this. It’s all about a wickedly corrupted, trigger-happy police force.

  • TK

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1704564,00.html

    “Perhaps the most discouraging sign for the protesters came from Odinga himself. On Wednesday, he had scolded reporters when asked if he would risk arrest and march on the park, telling them that he was not afraid and reminding them he had spent nine years in the jails of autocratic President Daniel arap Moi. Yet on Thursday, the man with a reputation as a fiery, charismatic populist struck a sour note when he told reporters that his advisers had warned him that it was too dangerous to try to march, even though central Nairobi had been quiet. Asked how he felt not being able to join his supporters, Odinga replied: “I feel great.”"

  • abelian

    toiyoi,

    I am sorry if I sounded rude but someone has got to save this nation and the way things stand it is us who have to do it.

    We have to bring her from the edge of the abyss and then concentrate on solving the recurring problems once and for all. With violence every one will end up losing

  • TK

    My God rest in peace the souls of all innocent Kenyans who have died as a result of selfish politicians. It pains me to see so many Kenyan bloggers and their fans justifying hatred & the killing of innocent Kenyans. Who in their right mind would die or kill for Kibaki,Ruto,Raila..??? Remember all these guys are products and big beneficiaries of the Moi regime.

  • http://udi-m.blogspot.com udi

    @alexcia- sasa where did u see me link this with other incidences. Violence is violence whether it was last week or yesterday.

  • http://udi-m.blogspot.com udi

    At least there is an editor who is also thinking along my lines

    http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5371&Itemid=5854

    Editorial: Stop these goons Print E-mail
    Written by Administrator
    January 18, 2008: Political activism notwithstanding, we cannot afford economic saboteurs in our midst. We have witnessed the crippling of the lakeside town of Kisumu’s economy with scores of entrepreneurs leaving for good after losing their property to looters, goons and arsonists.

    Eldoret town is on its knees too. Trenches have been dug across main roads, illegal roadblocks have sprung up, bridges brought down and public offices burnt down across Nyanza and Rift Valley provinces.

    On Thursday, we saw goons try to derail a train in Kibera slums of Nairobi. In word, goons are bringing down what tax payers painfully built. Agitation for change cannot be achieved via economic destruction and sabotage.

    Sanity must prevail since we will all pay a heavy price for the self-destruction we are going through. The days when nations thrived and emerged from the ashes of war and ruins are over. After the last embers die out, we will still have a nation to build, and an economy to run. Our politicians are not helping us either.

    It is time we separated the reformists in our streets from goons taking advantage of the crackdown on Orange Democratic Movement rallies. It is time we separated hard-liners from moderates in both President Kibaki’s camp and the Raila Odinga’s group.

    The MPs have left their institution solid and unharmed. It is the poor man’s economy that has been hurt by the ongoing political push.

  • http://toiyoi.wordpress.com toiyoi

    @Abelian

    How do you react to this note from the media about the Eldoret incidence today (http://www.eastandard.net/news/?id=1143980566&cid=4 ):

    “A contingent of the GSU also opened fire from G3 rifles, sending over 500 patients, nurses, doctors and members of staff into panic.

    Nurses and security staff also said the invading force was in GSU uniform but they did not communicate in Kiswahili and were also asking staff to identify their tribes.”

    Don’t you see there is a problem with these “GSU”

  • Ishara

    The young man the police shot dead had a name: Olago

    Tale of killer bullets in Kisumu

    Story by COSMAS BUTUNYI and WALTER MENYA
    Publication Date: 1/18/2008

    Theatre of the absurd by police was captured by TV cameramen as a trigger-happy officer snuffed out the life of hapless Olago Junior who had joined others for a peaceful protest in Kisumu.

    Olago, who was killed on Wednesday, was not armed, not even with a stone. But he was never to return home alive.

    Although the right to peaceful assembly is one of the cornerstones of democracy and is enshrined in Chapter Five of Kenya’s Constitution, the police bullet stood in the way for Olago Junior.

    A police officer brandishing an AK-47 rifle charged at him and his friends as they danced and made faces, shooting him dead and injuring his friend on the shoulder.

    Kisumu, a stronghold of ODM leader Raila Odinga, who accuses President Kibaki of stealing the December 27 poll, has suffered the worst police brutality. More than 70 people have been killed in the town, most of them shot dead by police. Six have been killed in the latest round of protests.

    Rights groups have blamed this on what they call a shoot-to-kill policy by the police and use of live ammunition against protestors.

    One of the casualties succumbed to bullet wounds at Bandani Estate.The woman whose name was given as Judith Namukuru was reportedly killed by a bullet that teared through her tin-walled shanty. Her eight-year- old daughter who was also in the House was unhurt.

    Other demonstrators were shot in Otonglo area on Kisumu-Busia road, which became the main battleground for the better part of the day.

    Protestors lit bonfires on the road as they engaged police in running battles.

    Commonwealth and other observers have described the elections as failing to meet international standards. The killing of Olago was brought right into the living rooms of Kenyans and the world by TV cameras. After the killing, the police officer then turned to his wounded friend and kicked him even as he writhed in pain besides Olago’s lifeless body.

    Manyatta area, which served as Olago’s home, was sealed off by police Thursday.

    Once again, the killing has brought into sharp focus what human rights agencies have described a shoot-to-kill order being implemented by police in Kisumu and elsewhere against unarmed Kenyans.

    People who knew Olago said he did menial jobs in the lakeside town to survive.

    Journalists who tried to venture into the crowded Manyatta estate were threatened with dire consequences.

    Beyond the horrifying pictures of perceived brutality are families counting losses of their loved ones who were also felled by bullets. By Thursday, the toll had hit six.

    Both felled

    The perception that death could be met only in the streets is also becoming a myth as residents recount tales of women and children being hit by bullets at home.

    Ms Rosa Akinyi was hit by misfortune for the second time since the controversial polls. She lost her husband in circumstances that were strikingly similar to those that led to her brother’s death earlier. Both were felled by bullets in Manyatta estate during the post-election protests.

    While her brother was shot dead in the first round of skirmishes that rocked Kisumu immediately after the announcement of election results, her husband died on Wednesday as the three-day mass action called by ODM kicked off.

    Rosa fought back tears as she recounted her last moments with George Odunga, the father of her nine-year-old son.

    After taking lunch with his family, which turned out to be their last meal together, she says Mr Odunga left home. He returned about three hours later and ventured out to visit a relative who lived nearby.

    Not long after he left, gunshot fire rent the air. She would later learn that one of victims was her husband.

    According to Mr Odunga’s friend, Esau Ochir, who was with him when he was shot, they had been chatting with some friends when a contingent of police officers arrived in a van.

    They alighted and split in two groups of three officers each.

    “They began shooting at whoever they saw in sight and so we took off,” he explained.

    As they fled, he added, the officers shot at them, and as fate would have it, one of the bullets caught Mr Odunga, killing him instantly. His body was taken to the Nyanza Provincial General Hospital mortuary, where his brother-in-law’s body has been lying for the past two weeks.

    Mr Ochir says as they were taking Mr Odunga’s body to the mortuary on a hand cart, they encountered a seriously wounded victim.

    They lifted him onto the cart and dropped him off at the hospital’s casualty department before proceeding to the mortuary.

    As the Odunga family mourns, only a few metres away in the same estate friends and relatives of 10-year-old Salim Ahmed are also in mourning.

    The Standard Four pupil at Obinju primary school in Kisumu was also felled by a policeman’s bullet on Wednesday.

    His mother, Mrs Halima Ali, says Salim was shot as he played with a friend a short distance away from the house.

    Mrs Ali said she was at home when she was alerted that her son had been shot. On rushing to the scene, she found the boy lying in a pool of blood.

    His body was carried back to their house, where it stayed overnight. It was transferred to the Nyanza Provincial General Hospital mortuary Thursday for post-mortem before burial later in the day.

    Bitterness was evident in the mother’s face, as she narrated events leading to the death of her son.

    “Police who were pursuing protesters started shooting indiscriminately without establishing who the protesters were,” she said amid sobs.

    Mrs Ali claims police also lobbed tear gas canisters into their house.

    “We voted for peace but it seems like that was our worst mistake, with police killing innocent people who know little about politics,” Mrs Ali said.

    Salim’s friend who was with him at the time of the shooting escaped with no injuries. He was, however, still in shock and was yet to come to terms with the death of his friend.

    The boy could barely speak to journalists who visited their house. Manyatta Estate seemed to be the worst hit in Kisumu.

    Apart from the two deaths, many walls bear bullets marks, a testimony of the trigger-happy nature of the police.

    http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=39&newsid=114845

  • shujaa 00

    UDI
    i do remeber seeing charity ngilus two daughters and son in law in the protests.unfortunately najib balala and rutos kids are way too young to be at the riots.a question to most of you how else do u advocate for change without mass protest(non violent)??or should we accept the situation as is and risk loosing the effects of the ballot box for there is no certainty of choice at the end of every 5 years? should we begin to make to make the politicians ‘obsolete’ in terms of we vote every 5 years and no matter the outcome our lives continue with or without hope??

  • http://toiyoi.wordpress.com toiyoi

    @Udi
    Your pathetic on your first Post.

    The second Post (#28) shows that, in your mind, since these “Goons” are causing economic hardships, why, just shoot them.

    Assuming that were the case, a question: The boy shot in Kisumu at the Kondele slums, what item was he destroying in the slum? Question, the Eldoret case that you mention, how come no one was shot during that event? BS.

    Secondly, while i do not support the destruction of property, i can understand the frustration of the oppressed.

    I also predict which side you would have taken in these situations:
    (i) During the Mau Mau rebellion: Udi would have sided with the settlers, since the Mau Mau were destroying the settlers’ property
    (ii) ANC uprising in South Africa: UDI sides with the boers, since the blacks are causing economic difficuty in the mines
    (iii) Civil rights movement of the 60s: Udi supports segregationists.( Yet now he hides with his tail b/n his legs in the USA, enjoying the sweat of those who fought for the comfort and rights he now enjoys )
    (iv) ALL resistance to oppression: Udi sides with Oppressors.

    Now, we know what Udi stands for.

  • http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/ Chrenyan

    @Kanyoni

    Comparing an unarmed, defenceless man, sorry, TWO unarmed defenceless men to the Interahamwe is, to put it mildly, stretching the truth. I maintain that the actions of this cop are INDEFENSIBLE.

    However, while I cannot advocate for the use of state force with such disregard for life, I agree that a clip of the senseless violence perpetrated in the Rift Valley/Western/Kisumu, against victims who were just as undeserving, would not go amiss, if the full story would be told.

    The whole truth is the truth.

  • AtSanity’sEdge

    Any way you slice it, that was cold-blooded murder and it’s likely that the victim won’t get justice despite all the evidence.

    I don’t think any peace-loving Kenyan wants killers with badges and guns roaming the streets with loaded weapons and no accountability for their actions. If they are indeed frustrated with their daily grind, they should resign and let more restrained people take on that task, that is, those who value and respect life.

    One function of the police is to deal with difficult situations so, in fact, the protest rallies and riots do concern them regardless of their involvement in causing them as they are charged with keeping the peace during such eventualities. If they have to, they may legally use reasonable force to subdue alleged criminals and use lethal force only as a last resort.

    The footage in question shows the two civilian men fleeing from the policeman and I think we can all agree his personal safety wasn’t in any kind of jeopardy moments before, and most certainly not during or after the brutal moments captured on “tape”.
    This guy was on a rampage, he had to kill someone before the day was over. It’s just pure evil.

    Utumishi Kwa Wote? That’s a hot, steamy pile of BS, and everyone knows that.
    The countdown to a Kenya meltdown has been slow but sure and will soon hit critical mass if the maladies ailing the country aren’t remedied expeditiously.

  • Jose

    So what he is poor? So what he is “being used” by our cowardly self-serving politicians? So what Najib’s or Ngilu’s or Raila’s family is not taking to the streets? So what he is a “hooligan”? You simply CANNOT justify the taking of a human life in such circumstances.

    The young man had a GOD-GIVEN, CONSTITUTIONAL right to be on the streets. Some STUPID officer, acting on EVIL shoot-to-kill orders, has taken away this right, along with a more important right, the right to LIFE.

    Looter or not, hooligan or not, idler or not, Olago had the right to be on the streets. It takes an extremely insecure and EVIL government to take away a citizen’s basic human rights in such a manner. It takes a highly insensitive person to try and justify this violation of basic rights, like Udi is trying to do.

    PS- the killings of innocents in the Rift Valley have nothing to do with this, so don’t even try to link the two.

  • http://www.ourkidbert.blogspot.com/ OurKid

    @ udi

    Your statement about the ODM leaders not having their children on the streets was shared by Naomi Shaban yesterday. In a moment of madness, I flipped channels to KBC during the 7pm news bulletin. And Shaban was saying that ODM leaders have tucked their children safely in mansions and are telling poor people to protest. I flipped the channels again and at that precise time, KTN was showing Ntimama’s daughter being tear gassed!

    The bottom line is that as long as a protest is peaceful, then the police should not break it up. They can even walk by the side just observing the protesters to ensure no violence erupts. But to try to be clairvoyant and say ‘if they march, they will loot’ is being untruthful. By repulsing protesters from Uhuru Park into the CBD, the police just end up making things worse.

  • magothe

    Ei? Gova has said there is a ban on these rallies. Gova has already shot these goons in previous rallies. What would you take your backside to these rallies for unless you wanted it full of GoK lead? Stay at home or go to work (if you can) and nobody will fill your mbackside with lead.
    Idiot.

  • abelian

    toiyoi,

    if it is true then it is very disturbing indeed, These politicians are taking Kenyans for a ride, at the very first sign of trouble they will ship their families overseas and the rest of us will slaughter each mercilessly on the streets. That is what bothers me more….

    Fighting for Justice and equality is vital but at the expense of the lives of our families, relatives and countrymen

  • abelian

    correction

    I meant not at the expense of our families, friends and countrymen

  • Jogoo wa Shamba

    The footage on that clip is simply outrageous!! While I do not in any way condone the incidences of looting and hooliganism that we have witnessed since the “mass demos” started, it is improper to shoot an unarmed person.

    And to those insisting for the ODM Pentagon members’ sons and daughters being on the streets, does it really make a difference? Are they more human/Kenyan than the rest of the Kenyans who feel cheated and betrayed?

  • AtSanity’sEdge

    Magothe, I’m under the impression that in your opinion, the use of lethal force by the police against unarmed and fleeing civilians, even during a banned protest, is absolutely permissible and in no way reprehensible. Is that correct?

    Udi, your import of the Stop These Goons editorial piece still hasn’t helped your cause in this forum today. The writer of that piece didn’t in any way insinuate that one way to stop these goons is to pump them full of AK47 rounds while they flee with their backs turned. I’m just saying :)

    “…The days when nations thrived and emerged from the ashes of war and ruins are over…”

    Now that’s a quote for all to think about.

  • donworry

    Another sad day for our country..What a mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. I agree totally with all of you who condemn this callous and cowardly action by the people who are supposed to be custodians of the peace. I have no words to say to those hypocrites who are pretending that this is a law-and-order issue and blaming the victims. Is this cop still at large? Who is his commanding officer? Someone should be held accountable.

    There is another disturbing thought that comes to mind as I read this. All this senseless bloodletting is doing something terrible to our psyche. So many dead and we stop thinking. We begin to talk in numbers….hundreds, thousands…who knows maybe more. In the height of the ‘insurgency’ in Iraq hundreds of people would die on a single day in a series of car bomb attacks. Even mosques were not spared by the suicide bombers.

    It would seem that there is a Kenya police strategy of brutalising a certain section of soceity now just like they did with ‘mungiki’ last june-july. We must I regret, prepare ourselves for more.

  • Blogger

    Now that an ODM hooligan has been shoot dead everyone is crying wolf and saying the police are not handling the situation professionally..But nobody has showed clips of the hundreds of IDP’s(Internally Displaced People) who were chased out of their farms and houses in the RIFT VALLEY.. Nobody bothers to weep over the hundreds of women,girls
    and boys who are been sexsual assulated… The hundreds of IDP’s who are living in tents and when it rains all their beddings are soaked… and they can’t sleep..Nobody cares to show footage of the hundreds of newborn babies who have died due to poor weather and living conditions…
    Lets stop been biased and lets all agree Hooliganism is not accepted…and remember that famous saying “IF U LIVE BY THE SWORD U SHALL DIE BY THE SWORD”

  • AtSanity’sEdge

    Since the subject is on the table, I thought I’d toss my peni mbili’s worth in.

    With respect to the children of the political elite, the sense of loss is usually seemingly greater to the families, the public and the world at large when the child of an influential and famous person perishes especially under suspicious circumstances or perishes, period. The demise of an average citizen or God forbid, a slum-dweller, is just an instance of good riddance to some people since they are completely detached and unaffected [directly] by such events.

    When Udi asks, Where are the kids of the men and women involved in this power struggle? Shouldn’t they be on the streets bleeding and getting teargassed alongside the rest?
    It’s a valid response to situations like this, in fact, we all know that the war in Iraq is being fought by young Americans from average American families and yet the most of the children of those who sent them to die are out of harms way. Those opposed to the war are always bringing that subject up.
    The idea is that, if one’s child was to remain in harms way due to their actions or inaction, he/she would move quicker to remedy the situation than if his/her entire family was tucked away in a safe(r) place.

    It’s universally true that money and influence will buy you almost anything in this world, therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised if the families of the elite were quietly whisked out of the country if or when the shit hit’s the fan. Of course, this also applies to those with just the means to do it less the influence which leaves the rest stuck knee-deep in a crappy situation that they had nothing to do with.

    I totally get it and I’m sure the police are less inclined to shoot at a heavy hitter’s kid if they recognized them. If there were enough of them out there protesting and they made their presence duly known, it’s possible that there would be less police brutality in some areas. Still, I don’t think that would be enough to get the government to give in to the pressure.

  • udi

    I am getting tired of people responding to comments before even reading them. Did I sema the protesters should be shot. I was talking about the ones who last week were busy looting and attacking people. If you are caught looting carrying a panga, then fuk it, you need to meet Sir God.

    @toiyoi- some of u pretend to be historians. In the case of the civil rights, did you see MLK choma anything. Did you see black people go looting and burning. There is civil disobediance (which I am assuming we are all advocating) and civil unrest (which is causing mayhem). So before you claim to know what I stand for, ask yourself how we were able to get rid of Moi’s dictatorship without all the looting and the killing thats going on.

    So before you start responding before even reading my comment, I have in no way said I have supported the extra-judicial killings being done. Show me where I have said it. I have said those looting and destroying deserve what they get. Coz if anybody right now was to come and try and destroy my property, like Malcolm X, I would use any means necessary to make sure it doesnt happen.

    FYI- I was at home during the elections. And I was not amsued about not having the freedom of movement when chaos was going on. I even met up with a huge gang of people in the neighbourhood who were ready to beat you senseless if you didnt say you are ODM.

  • udi

    @TK- I just read that time article. Why do I feel he was misquoted? I dont see how he can sema he feels great about not joining his supporters. That just doesnt sound like him.

  • udi

    @jogoo- I totally agree with you. Their kids are as human as the rest. So every time they see kids being displaced and the ethnic cleansing in R.Valley, they should empathise. I dont have any kids and I would be the first to declare that the presidency is not worth it when I see kids being butchered coz of their tribe.

    According to BBC, Raila has said that they would boycott any companies that belong to Kibaki and his cronies. Now that is a boycott I wholeheartedly support. You might get 2,000 to go to a rally, but I am sure you can get 4,0000,000 to boycott a product. Lets hope for sanity’s sake, this damn rallies end soon. coz GSU are definetly on some weed the way they are on the rampage.

  • Carol

    I am in tears.I can’t help it any more,my beloved country is dying!
    Raila and Kibaki should be as guilty as that policeman in the clip.The Policemen look like hungry lions released from a cage after a month bila kula.They shoot to kill. They should pay,one day one time.

  • Carol

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    Mierouff Posté le 17-01-2008 à 20:54:46Pas de coms depuis le début (3 jours au moins).
    En gros tous le monde s’en tape, et c’est normal, ça ne nous touche pas.
    Ce qui me fais rire dans cette histoire, c’est que les blacks se massacrent entre eux pour une question d’ethnie, mais des que l’on est contre l’immigration massive en France, on est traité de nazis. A la différence, que nous ne massacrons pas nous.
    Qui est le plus facho entre un blanc qui expulse ses clandestins et un noire qui en tue un autre pour une question d’ethnie ???
    This is someones comment in a French TV website.
    What he is trying to say is:the BLACKS kill btw themselves on ethnic grounds but once the WHITES against imigration to France, racism comes up………The whole thing makes him laugh!
    Hope this person could learn that its not all a matter of tribes.

  • http://udi-m.blogspot.com udi

    Here is a clip of the whole incidence from BBC (which also includes part of the KTN clip). Those cops are not being provoked. They just seem to be trigger happy. Coz you would even have expected they use those water tanks they have

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7190000/newsid_7192000/7192077.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&asb=1&news=1&bbcws=1

  • AtSanity’sEdge

    Blogger, please!

    You should to try and understand that this particular blog thread was initiated in direct response to the video footage of the senseless murder of a Kenyan like you and I, by the police, who are an extension of the government and are there [supposedly] to protect and serve all Kenyans. The alleged hooligan may or may have not been engaged in acts hooliganism; there’s no proof for or against that assertion. The only proof available at this point is a murderous, trigger-happy policeman with a thirst for blood, anyone’s blood, satisfying his need. We can’t assume that he [the victim] lived by the “sword” and, therefore, deservedly died by the “sword”.

    Having said that, I don’t think that anyone here has suggested that the equally senseless murder of innocent defenseless Kenyans all over the country is licit and should be ignored and applauded. Believe me, my tears are yet to dry from crying for the innocents caught up in this fracas and also for my own family and friends who are still in harms way even as I compose this entry. I don’t even know where some of them are – for all I know, they could be dead in some forest somewhere out there.

    Trust me, nobody who cherishes life, peace and stability has forgotten the IDPs of Kenya. If anything, it’s the politicians, who still have the power to make things right or at least, initiate a healing process who are caught up in their tug-o-war thus dragging this out and in turn causing more needless suffering of our countrymen and women, together with their vulnerable young ones. Condemning the violence and visiting a refugee camp will not get medicine to those who need it. Issuing a shoot to kill order will not keep people warm at night. Ignoring the problems will not make them go away – the time for a true leader to emerge has come and gone…and nobody stepped up. There’s plenty of blame to go around.

    We are always thinking about, and praying for the ones directly affected by the violence in our homeland and hope it comes to a quick end.